Summary

Trump has just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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    1 hour ago

    I checked a few parts for a few minutes. It was too painful to watch.

    Troomp and JD couch showed the worst traits leaders could have. The obvious ones are the American superiority complexes and the toxic need to escalate and talk down upon others.

    In all of the bits I saw when skipping trough it, Zelenksy deescalated the situation multiple times while Trump and especially Vance escalated and started talking like some pretentious teenager bullies that gotten themselves a country.

    Fuck the USA.

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    I don’t know exactly how to put this, but I feel personally embarrassed by this.

    I think this is going to shift world order more than expected. Every country now must be nuclear. Trump is going to try to install himself as a dictator. I think violence will have to be the answer. Man it’s depressing.

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      I feel like no one who could have a sway (aside from the mass who is not organized and still devided at the moment) would benefit from trump not being in power. That’s a lot of negatives, let me rephrase: I feel that no one with the power to influence—aside from the masses, who, if organized, could have significant sway—has much incentive to act, as they benefit from Trump being in power.

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      2 hours ago

      AFAIK, it’s not clear if the CIA ever killed a president.

      They surely gave guns and taught other people how to do it. But I don’t think they ever did it themselves.

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      They voted in a Russian agent as the president. They are beyond evil. They are traitors.

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      49 minutes ago

      +100

      Anyone who thought this would work out differently was simply not paying attention or was being willfully ignorant.

      US provided a deal Zelinsky simply could not sign and they knew it. Chump set Zelinsky up for this shit show cause, in his world, Chump either gets the deal he wants or he gets to act/look tough.

      And how masculine/tough to have Couchie there backing him up cause Chump isn’t brave enough to do it all on his own.

      And, of course, all concludes with disastrous results all around.

      🤦‍♀️ 🖕 🖕 🤡

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      50 minutes ago

      Trump’s Hot Take: If someone breaks into your home, begins stealing stuff and murdering your family, just stand by. You don’t want to cause a stir.

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        Trump’s Hot Take: Give me half your stuff and I’ll help you stop that other thief/murderer.

        It’s a great deal because he’s gonna take everything.

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    2 hours ago

    Real Art of The Deal shit.

    Absolute fucking masterclass in statesman-like diplomacy.

    Genuinely a moment for all Americans to be proud of. Truly, exceptional.

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    2 hours ago

    This really is the end of the US era. Nobody will count on them for things like this from now on. War was the one thing the US was good at, now they have nothing of value left for the rest of the world.

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    3 hours ago

    And then to top off his hissy fit, he kicked Zelenskyy out. Like the diaper wearing toddler he is.

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      1 hour ago

      America is an enemy to freedom, democracy, and peace to the world; Americans just haven’t felt it yet.

      They will soon when the dictatorship turns violent, after all checks and balances are removed.

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    Yeah, accuse someone who just wants his country to survive a constant and ongoing aggression of “gambling with World War III”, and kiss the ass of the aggressor despot who constantly threatens to nuke the world if someone looks at him wrong.

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    Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

    Unlike KrasnovTrump, who is responsibly destroying the US Government and undermining the USA’s alliances and foreign influence while doing everything he can to hand Ukraine and Europe to Russia. That’s just responsible statesmanship.

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    No he is showing us exactly who we know him to be a piece of human shit.

    • Nfamwap@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      Hey man, I dropped a log this morning that was 12" long and 1.5 inches thick.

      That motherfucker was a majestic bastard.

      I wouldn’t even put Trump in the same league as the skidmark that was left behind by this veritable ring-buster.

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    2 hours ago

    What an abhorrent example of humanity they both are and what an embarrassment to the world this is.

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          You shouldn’t, but check out this Politico article started with:

          Russian leaders cheered after President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance dealt Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy a brutal smackdown in the Oval Office Friday

          It’s amazing how we see a petulant man-child throwing a fit and they see “a brutal smackdown”. The propaganda is evident.