Summary
The Trump administration plans to revoke temporary legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians who fled Russia’s war, fast-tracking them for deportation.
The move is part of a broader effort to strip protections from 1.8 million migrants admitted under Biden’s humanitarian parole programs.
Trump’s policies also target 530,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
Legal challenges are mounting, as affected individuals face uncertain futures. Advocates warn that even U.S. allies, such as Afghans who assisted the military, are now at risk of detention and deportation.
From safe haven to eviction notice—America’s moral compass just hit rock bottom.
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This traitor is destroying all our allegiances. In a single month.
It’s time for America to accept that we have placed a literal traitor in the highest office.
And it’s time for us to man the fuck up and start adhering to our fucking Constitution. We’re letting a felon rapist traitor fuck our future.
The amount of friends I have who are perfectly normal and sane people who are bringing up in casual conversations the hope for Trump to be assassinated is insanely high. I’m in Canada.
Who’s going to do it? All I see is a bunch of internet talk. There’s no leadership. Just a bunch of ppl scared and posting online or emailing/calling senators. We especially need straight white men standing up. The dem paddle holding was just pathetic.
Krasnov’s got his own cabinet afraid to dissent, nevermind the cowardly Libs he’s pwning.
The world is watching you, Murca, and we’re turning away from you while you let this happen. On your streets, none of you are willing to admit you were lied to. You can’t afford this ignorance.
So at this point it’s not even illegals but those that have gone through the effort to obtain status. What the actual fuck.
Well, in this case, why not just deport Trump?
Or at least his wife.
Maybe he’s been told Melania is ukranian…
I remember hearing Trump’s foreign policy described as “isolationist.”
He’s not an isolationist.
He’s on Russia’s side.
I would prefer if he were an isolationist.
Amazing that there are still groups of people looking at these decisions and trying to discern the rationale behind them as if there was any. Mental Olympics at this point.
This, and I would go further. There is no such thing as right and left for russian puppets. Their “ideology” is whatever is needed for their particular populace and the only thing aligning them around the world is the trail of money.
Well then the next step is actual betrayal of Ukraine by giving their intel to Russia.
Never mind he’s probably already doing so.
I kind of understand immigrants.
But refugees? That’s just a NASTY move.
Immigrants implies they’ve gone through the legal process to emigrate to the United States. The word you’re looking for is illegal aliens and I think the vast majority of the country is forgetting there is a simple solution. Penalize all of the companies that are exploiting illegal alien labor to widen their profit margin. Why do we always blame the drug users instead of the drug dealers in this country and I’m using the terms as a metaphor in this case the dealers are the businesses they’re the problem not the folks trying to make a better life for themselves.
The same people who hire illegal immigrants are the same people who vote for things like ICE and crackdowns and fund those candidates. They can pay their workers shit, get away with deplorable working conditions (are you calling OSHA if you are here illegally?) and then call up la migra the second that they hear talk about unions.
he’s threatening to invade his allies, “nasty” was already met and passed.
I thought he wasn’t into DEI. Europeans were underrepresented among the deportees, now trump’s promoting equity there.
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I can’t believe the cruelty. I’m just… But… No words.
Make America satanic again.
What the fuck…
Tell me Trump is a Russian asset without saying he’s a Russian asset.
I hate that i can understand this with my 0.001 knowledge of russian. You are not my brother, you are my state* (oblast)
How does this specifically benefit russia? Ukraine government is drafting people by force and not allowing any male between 18-60 from leaving the country.
Why is Trump still living?
Because America is too weak to deal with internal threats.
In less than 24 hours we can reign unholy fire down upon any enemy anywhere on the globe. But if they’re in our own backyard we cower before them and allow them to abuse us repeatedly.
And that is why our democracy will collapse and our quality of life will decline.
Poor markmanship.
That kid almost became a historic legend.
I honestly don’t know what would have happened. Would the country have been upset and voted for whatever other scum Republicans tossed in as Trump’s replacement? Would it have been too late and the country would have just defaulted to Dems to be safe? I don’t know. But the kid would have still been a hero.
Sooooooo close.
The republican that took his spot would have won with a big majority but at least it wouldn’t be a Russian asset
Not so sure how many republicans in office aren’t Russian assets at this point. There’s a bunch of them though, have been for a while.
Oh comon, that was a really good shot under pressure
Yeah. Shooting targets is hard. Especially when it’s oozing to and fro on a stage X number of yards away.
The real question is if it had made contact with his head, would it have killed him since his brain occupies such a small portion of that head? People often can live if a bullet doesn’t hit any vital organs.
Most people who care what happens to others they never met are not murderers.
People who know people affected are usually powerless.
High school rifle club.
He’s living proof that time travel into the past is never going to get invented … likely because he cut most science funding.
I’m not so sure about that.
Just like the Federation in the Star Trek universe had the Prime Directive (rule) that prohibits its members from interfering with the natural development of alien civilization, I can see how time travel could have a similar rule. Going back in time to mess with things can create all kinds of unintentional butterfly effects.As Gandalf says “Even the very wise cannot see all ends”
Going back in time to mess with things can create all kinds of unintentional butterfly effects.
omg, maybe this timeline is a butterfly effect!
Best comment I have read in quite a long time.
how do you know we are not living in the dregs of what science should have been?
The universe isn’t benevolent
Just by a few inches… If even that.
Tbh, the shot looks like it would’ve blown the back of his dome off if he hadn’t done his classic chicken head jerk at the last possible second, probably right as the shooter was pulling the trigger. Instead, it grazed his ear. Missed him by literally half a second.
Should have gone for the heart; I don’t think further damaging the brain would have much effect.
It would have just bounced off the lump of coal.
What heart? For real, though, even a shallow angle impact here probably would’ve been catastrophic. The occipital lobe and brain stem control a lot of the very fundamental functions of continuing to be alive. It’s nuts how narrowly Trump avoided getting a game over screen.
Though, yeah, a center of mass shot probably would have been all she wrote for Trump. My guess is that the shooter had a very, very narrow line of sight on Trump, and probably only had the head as an option. That’s likely why a few other people were injured or killed in the attempt; IIRC they were inadvertently between Trump and the shooter.
Sometimes I feel like I was the only one who remembered that this is what it was like the last time he was in office. Just every day some fresh hell, like a treadmill of anger and grief until the only real reason to protest is so that they don’t drive you permanently numb.
The scope of this new order is hard to contemplate. 0.77 million people who are being shown the door today. Our colossus is in need of a new credo.
“Give me your billionaires, your oligarchs, Your hunched war criminals yearning for the Lolita Express, The wretched refuse of your banking sectors. Send these, the landlords, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden arches!"
Edit to add: I know that it is currently only a plan. I do not need to bicker with anyone about this.
Sometimes I feel like I was the only one who remembered that this is what it was like the last time he was in office
I feel like it’s worse this time. Darker. We didn’t have the Ukraine or Israeli war. We didn’t have perverse AI videos like the Gaza video with a giant golden Trump statue.
2016 was the rise of Trump. Right now we are in the age of Trump. Trump is steadily increasing his power and I believe fairly soon he will be able to more or less unilaterally control the federal government as he continues his purges.
It’s far, far worse this time.
Last go around sure, there would be a fucked up tweet almost every day, but much fewer actual changes. Yeah Trump did some fucked up shit over those 4 years, but he’s done more fucked up shit in the last month than in that whole term.
That is a large amount of people being sent back to a country where there is a good possibility that they will be killed. The country that is throwing them out (the US) has a lot of sympathetic people to their cause…and a lot of easily accessible guns.
Im not American so I probably didn’t see a lot of this but my lasting impression was a lot of blustering and shit slinging but no real action or substance. Like everything he tried or promised either didn’t get done or was half arsed. Basically i saw it as incompetence and damage through inaction rather than the malicious active damage he is doing now.
You are partially right. For US Presidents, implementing policy is much harder than declaring it, something IIRC Bush and Obama echoed.
But on top of that, Trump had a lot of guardrails in the first term, a lot of old school Republicans and “regular” cabinet that watered down whatever ideas he had.
That is no longer the case. It’s only loyalists egging each other on now. And there’s already a lot more bite, it’s just so much that it’s hard to process.
He did a huge amount of harm to our government. Not quite like this time, where most of what he is doing is outright illegal and is essentially a soft coup, but really bad nonetheless - just mostly aimed at making him money and getting/keeping political power instead of destryoying the country. Much of that was outright illegal, but a lot of it was just breaches of “norms” and “decorum”.
I literally can’t fit it all into one comment, its so much and such a convoluted web of schemes and lies and crimes and support from other politicians/lawyers/the media. And every day was something new. I followed all the legal cases relating to his admin back in the first term - it was hard to keep up with even while it was all happening. Much of the reason he was never charged or indicted for so much of what he did is that you can’t criminally indict a sitting president.
The Mueller investigation into the Trump administration’s conduct with Russian political operatives found that he more than likely illegally colluded with Russia to the detriment of the US and to defraud and disenfranchise voters, but literally couldn’t charge Trump since he was a sitting president - hoping instead that someone would pick up the investigation when he could be charged. It is notable that that investigation produced 37 indictments and 7 convictions/guilty pleas, referred 14 more cases to DoJ for prosecution, and recovered like $48M in misappropriated government funds (the investigation cost $32M, so it was actually profitable). So, this investigation couldn’t prosecute Trump, but 34 people in his administration were indicted and the findings of the report suggested they would have prosecuted Trump if they were legally allowed to. That says all you need to know, IMO.
It drove me crazy how much people acted like the Mueller investigation exonerated Trump completely. It absolutely did not and everyone just dropped the topic after it came out. Even Rachel Maddow who seemed to be desperately chasing her Woodward and Bernstein moment with her coverage of the investigation seemed to stop talking about the investigation as soon as the report came out as if there wasn’t anything to talk about, even though a bunch of Trump allies were charged and convicted for engaging in secret dealings with agents related to Russia.
MSNBC at the end of the day is a for-profit business.
Not being able to indict a sitting president is the biggest bullshit policy of all time. Nobody should be above the law, especially the people in power.
It was also only based upon a DOJ memo of some sorts for a long time. The “Supreme Court”'s recent decision though makes it seem like the only legal remedy for an active criminal president is to impeach and then convict and remove them first.
This becomes what russian hegemonic law looks like in the US. The DOJ does whatever the Kremlin wants or needs on this, a sharp departure from other administrations or even other jurisdictions such as blue states. We become a patchwork of neomedieval geoplitical clashes constantly caught in between the jurisprudential spheres of entirely conflicting global and financial agendas. Individual politicians and public servants serving throughout the government become agents of different global factions and different hegemonies and the people are continually subjected not just to unstable and unreliable patterns of legal text and texts indicating some kind of public policy but to endlessly shifting pretext of every type to the jurisprudence and statecraft themselves. The federal government has been collapsing for a while but this just makes it faster than it has been.
Yeah, his first time around there were people who kept his worst ideas from being realized and drove away the worst of his associates. This time around those people are gone and he is surrounded by those associates and even worse people like Musk.
I remember stories from Trump’s first term about how his handlers had to babysit him and do things like hide his rough drafts of orders planning to go to war (he’d calm down and forget about them by the next day). It reminds me of the (hopefully apocryphal) story of how Nixon had to be lead to bed when he got roaring drunk and started threatening to nuke North Korea.
The staffers also preserved the documents he (illegally) shredded as a matter of habit, so scholars will hopefully be able to piece together what was going on in that hot mess someday.
None of those handlers are there this term. Trump spent the four years since his first term campaigning and gathering a crew of sycophantic parasites to do his bidding, and we have no view into what’s going on behind closed doors. The “checks and balances” every American was taught about as a child seem to be doing nothing, with him flagrantly ignoring them without reprisal.
I hope the US gets out of this as an intact democracy and without alienating every single ally in existence. People here don’t seem to realize how bad an antagonistic America would be - they have the military and logistics to take on half the world without nukes, and Trump has been very open (almost giddy) about his willingness to use those.
And a civil war would be worse since the government is wholly controlled by what most
wouldshould consider the bad guys and the military is trained to follow the chain of command, and Trump is openly purging top officials and replacing them with loyalists.Ugh, sorry for the rant. The last decade has been exhausting.
I hope the US gets out of this as an intact democracy and without alienating every single ally in existence.
It’s about 50/50 whether the US will be able to maintain any semblance of democracy.
The alliances are effectively dead already. Dropping military support to a country during an active war is a huge no-no. No one will ever trust the US ever again. It doesn’t matter if there’s a Democrat president in 2029, no one can trust the American people to not vote in a betrayer like Trump again. The first time Trump was president, it was like “they didn’t know who they were voting for.” Just a bump in the road of democracy. This time, Americans knew what they were voting for.
And we talk to Americans on the internet, we know that Americans don’t respect their allies. The soldiers of allied countries that sacrificed everything in Afghanistan and Iraq doesn’t even register with most Americans. There is too little sense of honour in the American population. Americans only care about money now, and that’s not a motivation that can be trusted by anyone.
Sorry, but Americans are too untrustworthy for meaningful alliances to be possible.
And we talk to Americans on the internet, we know that Americans don’t respect their allies. The soldiers of allied countries that sacrificed everything in Afghanistan and Iraq doesn’t even register with most Americans. There is too little sense of honour in the American population. Americans only care about money now, and that’s not a motivation that can be trusted by anyone.
I agree that how the US treated its allies is abominable (our abandonment of local guides and translators, who were promised a place in America for risking the lives of themselves and their families, to be murdered by the Taliban/ISIS should be persecuted as a crime - not to mention the minorities left to die to appease larger powers, such as the Kurds, Armenians, and now Ukrainians). However, most Americans don’t know about any of this.
Most Americans are living in a bubble that hides or vastly distorts anything outside of it. Our media is hyper-focused on a narrow band of issues that gets guaranteed views (mostly culture wars that said media invented or spread in the first place) and only pays lip service to anything outside of that. For many, “news” means pithy one-liners and relentless attacks on the other side. They’re told some minor issue is the single most important thing right now and are so whipped up they don’t look outside to see the world is burning. The right-wing media is an endless parade of hate, while the left complains about said right while offering no solutions. Neutral media is a joke, and foreign news has no foothold outside individual posts being shared if they agree with a person’s existing position. Major news gets cycled out after mere days and is quickly buried by the next meaningless story. It’s a constant cavalcade of worthless noise that obscures any actual reporting.
If America could somehow shrug off the 24-jour news hype cycle and see what’s actually happening in the world, I think you’d find there’s a great deal of empathy in the populace - it’d be hard to stir up an audience if they didn’t care about something. Sadly, I can’t see such a thing ever happening - the biggest shakeup in news this decade was Fox being called “woke” and what was once tabloid trash becoming accepted sources amongst the right, even getting dedicated reporting positions in the government while traditional media was kicked out. So if anything it’s only going to get worse, with the addiction to drama and outrage leading half the country even further into isolation and delusion.
That’s because the first term was to prepare
The first term, the Democrats controlled at least one branch of government.
And the courts were partly sane
Golden Arches works, but now we can use Golden Dome too.
Yeah his first term was mind-melting, nonstop nonsense. Same again now but even worse. I can’t believe people are so easily capable of forgetting.
What really pisses me off is all the newspapers that have acted like he wasn’t president for four years. As if there isn’t already examples of how the guy acts.
Or decades of behavior before that. Fun fact, he was denied a permit to open a casino in Australia due to his clear ties to Russian organized crime* - in 1987.
* For those unfamiliar, Russian organized crime is deeply entrenched with the actual Russian government - hence the term “Mafia State”.
Constant sane washing, I think it’s like human nature for people to try and help and improve other peoples faults, even subconsciously, and they help him along in small ways and we all suffer for it. He’s just evil and terrible. Say it, all media. He’s evil and terrible, it’s a fact.
I wonder what the Ukrainian people want.
Especially the ones misplaced to the US by a war Russia started, and now have to return to a war zone because the USA is now politically aligned with Russia, and willing to break international treaties, law, and ethics if it gets them Putins favor.
You’re an absolute idiot it you can’t comprehend the international seppuku the USA has just committed by failing to help displaced war refugees, and instead now helps their aggressors.
Anyone with a shred of humanity would see this as the evil bullshit it is.
Instead, you’re pointing out that a country at war needs to conscript troops. No shit. Check out how Russia is doing it, if you want a real comparison to call inhumane.
Especially the ones misplaced to the US by a war Russia started, and now have to return to a war zone because the USA is now politically aligned with Russia, and willing to break international treaties, law, and ethics if it gets them Putins favor.
You’re an absolute idiot it you can’t comprehend the international seppuku the USA has just committed by failing to help displaced war refugees, and instead now helps their aggressors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis
Ukraine government is drafting people by force and not allowing any male between 18-60 from leaving the country. Many people have died trying to flee the country.
“Anyone with a shred of humanity would see this as the evil bullshit it is.”
My dude. So you understand what a war is and how it works?
Do you understand how Russia has done the same?
Do you understand how 500,000 Russians are now dead because of that?
Do you understand that those 500,000 dead Russians are invading a country they promised peace with in 1995?
Do you ultimately understand the point you are making is about how the citizens of the Ukraine are being forced by Russia to either fight for their country or die?
Because that is the policy you are defending despite it clearly being the reason there’s 500,000 dead Russians and not the other way around.
If you want to decry military enlistment as “evil” then you are by far picking the worst example. Russia is far worse in their policies, with a far higher body count, and they are the reason anyone is dying at all.
Which means you are either making your arguments out of bad faith or pure stupidity.
If your argument was made in WW2 it would be about how evil the US is for defending Pearl Harbor.
Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
It appears so.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically. Our government is not equipped to deal with internal threats like this. We have too many weaknesses within our system and too many individuals unwilling to live up to their oaths.
That leaves it up to the general public. Right now, not gonna happen. Not sure what’s going to happen over the next few years. Things are going to get progressively worse. People will get more desperate. Violent crime will increase. These factors may push Americans to protest, probably violently, at levels never before seen in this country. That could bring about a positive change. But I’m not really betting on that happening. People are complacent. People are wage slaves. We’re going to have to lose our internet and TV and cell phone service before Americans get bloodthirsty on a large scale. Or if they seriously fuck with social security. That’ll cause riots.
But if they’re even remotely smart fascists they’d know to do this all slowly to prevent Americans from noticing or at least to prevent them from getting super mad super quick. Like, fuck with Social Security a little bit, so people get mad, but not that mad. Then do it some more a year later.
They’re not particularly smart though. So we’re basically going to see over the next few years if Americans can live up to our rebellious stereotype or if we’ve become meek and frail through lack of true hardship.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically.
Absolutely, the whole system was based on the administration respecting the law, when it doesn’t do that, all the checks and balances don’t work.
They’re not particularly smart though.
Sadly that seems like the best hope we have.
There are a lot of protests going on right now - the news isn’t covering it.
I think the legal, standing around with signs protest is going to have to have its toothier cousin (the violent riot) starting up again alongside it if we want anything to change. They already painted the 2020 protests as “burning the cities down” despite them being >90% peaceful. We might as well – to reference Kendrick Lamar’s lyrics – fuck being rational and give em what they asked for.
Yup.
Legal avenues and peaceful protests aren’t viable.
Violence will have to be the answer. Historically it always is if legal avenues and peaceful protests fail.
Fascists do not respond to anything other than violence.
It’s coming. The question is how much violence will be necessary to bring about change?
And it all could have been avoided if Americans behaved like adults and refrained from empowering a traitorous felon rapist.
Where? how do you know? how does the rest of the world find out about these?
There are images each week of a new protest in my city subreddit on reddit
I was curious what would happen if I googled “protests happening right now” and interestingly enough, it sent back this link: https://usprotests.liveuamap.com/
I’d question the credibility at this point. I’ve spent 0 minutes on there.
Aside from that…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN-NxUYGpAo&list=RDNSdN-NxUYGpAo&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXcaRvKAz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHitRUYRbdk&list=RDNSNHitRUYRbdk&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tro3pCO0YWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMF2OU-xR4
Honestly, just fucking around on Lemmy every other day or so, I always see a new post regarding a protest.
Thanks for the links!.. definitely a balm on the shattered trust in the American people
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
Yeah, pretty likely.
::Looks at Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart::
Yes.
Speak for yourself. What have you done to combat injustice in your home today?
Believe it or not yes some of us are trying to do something. You’ll have to forgive us for not having the same resources as the executive branch of the US.
Speak for yourself.
This is not about any individuals, it’s about America as a whole!!!
Believe it or not yes some of us are trying to do something.
Speak for yourself.
I’m still waiting to hear what they’ve done to combat injustice in their home today. Or even yesterday for that matter.
EDIT - They responded, they’re a G.
This is not about normal politics, or business as usual, it’s about Trump destroying USA. In my country there is nothing remotely close to Trump or Republicans to demonstrate against, because we have a democracy that actually works.
Where is this magical land you live?
It’s in Europe, but I guess you meant which country it is, which is Denmark.
And there is nothing magical about it, there are several similar countries that have functioning democracies.
To have a functioning democracy is not magical. But yes we do demonstrate if there are issues that require it. And we do have grass root movements. That can organize demonstrations quickly when needed.
If I wrote the list of actions and demonstrations I visited and helped organize in the last 15 years, I’d get accused of bragging. There’s no winning against that argument, it’s either “Show me what you’ve done” ::Shows all the things:: “You’re bragging” or ::Shows nothing:: “See? I’m right.”
I specifically asked.
In middleschool some peers and I helped run a fundraiser and helped organize in 2003 against the war in Iraq (kinda started here, cuz I naiively thought we were past that as a species)
When living in America during my teens, attended every protest I could physically go to to march against KKK and NeoNazi rally’s, we even (foolishly) got physical with them.
November 2011 was at Occupy Wall St. where 800+ of us were arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge. (first time being arrested at a protest)
2012-2013 worked with Greenpeace, Wilderness Society, and alongside with Bob Irwin (Steve Irwin’s dad) in his Fight for the Reef campaign to protect the Great Barrier Reef from coal shipping expansion (successfully managed to delay the Australian coal industries plan for a whole year, sadly they dredged the GBR anyway but I’d like to think we gave them a headache.)
2013 onwards - Attended every protest but at this point I’m past yelling and shouting, nowadays I hand out bottles of water and information on rights and what to do if you’re arrested or confronted by police.
2024 - Helped defend Plymouth UK from the fascist pogroms, same as above except also using my body as a shield to protect others from bricks. Hurt like a bitch but i’d take a million more. Also help run classes and leftist meetings alongside socialist members of government to teach members of the public everything from history of anti-fascism to safe resistance to mutual aid and preformative politics to cybersecurity to fascist dog-whistles and local fascist groups.
Does this qualify as doing something?
I saw your other comment, and it is laudable what you have done. So you of all people should know that tearing down everyone in the US and assuming none of us are doing anything is completely counterproductive.
You are helping the Trump administration with your needless snark/generalizations. You’ve taken your years of activism and weaponized it against people who either are already trying to do something or could potentially join the fray because you can’t fathom some of us are trying. You just assume you’re a better person than any of us and are now spending your time attacking us.
Is being smug and looking down on people from your high horse worth it? Are you enjoying yourself?
Have you considered maybe lending us a helping hand? Perhaps using all those years of experience you have to bring about some good?
Is being smug and looking down on people from your high horse worth it? Are you enjoying yourself?
This is why I don’t share the things I’ve done to try and help, because random people on the internet who have done nothing say shit like this. Like I said, there’s no winning, i’m either bragging or lying. You asked I answered, and you’re still not happy.
EDIT - I was open enough to share a list of things i’ve done, do you mind sharing yours?
Then prove it.
I’m not gonna send my professional c/v to some rando on the internet. What difference does it make anyway?
So you’ve done nothing and you’re pretending. Thumbs up
What have you done?
Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
I’d rather live in neo-fascist USA than in a war zone where I’m liable to be sent to the frontlines and die bleeding out in a trench after a drone blows my leg off.
I’d rather live in neo-fascist USA than live in poverty in many parts of Latin America where I would make 10x higher salary for unskilled labor. I would also have a 10x lower chance of getting my throat slit walking down the street at night.
Neo-fascist USA has literally threatened war with Canada and other neighboring countries, so if you think you won’t be on the front lines in a nonsense war started by fascists, then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
Chances are you and other Americans will be fighting in Ukraine alongside Russia by next year at the rate this clown show is excellerating.
There’s no American freedom in Neo-fascist USA, just whatever the broligarchy wants. The rights and freedom you, and every previous generation of Americans fought for are pretty much all gone now, so you are sorely mistaken if you assume you now have any.
i was born in a country with a military dictatorship who used to disappear people. just because the country is going to hell doesn’t mean you can’t carve out a meaningful life for yourself in the chaos. and living in a dystopian version of the US is probably still better than living in a dystopian version of a 3rd world country
then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
at no point in US history has the US been at war with a neighboring country over a trade war escalation and instituted a draft as a result of that war
any future war is going to be versus China and we’ve probably got at least a few years before that comes to fruition.
we’re in the years leading up to WW3. think of it like the early 1930s. if you look at history, everywhere sucked. i’d rather be in a 1st world country when the bombs go off rather than a 3rd world country where i’m liable to starve due to mass famines
You’re arguing for the pros of living in Germany post WW2. Because if WW3 happens, the US will not be on the side of the good guys.
Im sorry you lived in a 3rd world dictatorship. I imagine you moved to the US to escape that. I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place, rather than be complacent as we break bad due to social medias firehose of propaganda.
I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place
i would very much like to preserve the freedom as well. i’m not pro-fascism if that wasn’t clear
i was just saying that even if shit gets really bad here people may still come because everything else could be worse
That’s not exactly voluntarily then, if it’s to save your life.
