• Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Bills must be paid by Wednesday, or else.

    … or else what, exactly? There seems to be a whole lot of sternly worded judicial opinions, but can they actually do anything to enforce said decisions??

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      Anyone involved with the legal response or not releasing these funds can be arrested and held in contempt of court. This would obviously apply to Trump lackeys, and not himself. Do this a couple dozen times, and his entire cabinet has nobody to enforce their bullshit.

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          3 days ago

          The local police who are deferential to the judicial. That’s how and why they can arrest people. The executive does not decide this.

          Am I living in a universe where people just aren’t tought these things in school?

          • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            The executive does not decide this

            They do.

            Federal Court actions are enforced by the United States Marshals Service, which is part of the executive branch, which is under the President’s Authority.

            That’s why we got the famous quote from President Andrew Jackson: “John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it”.

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        That sounds like a great way to go, but if the past four years have taught me anything it’s that I shouldn’t expect much of anything in the way of lasting consequences or impediments for Republicans from our courts.

        I’ll get excited when there are some arrests.

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          3 days ago

          Have you noticed how stuck and stalled the Trump admin is right now? This is why. It’s working. We’re not even to the first court confrontation yet, which is due tomorrow. We need to see how far the judicitbranch is willing to go to issue punitive measures and enforce these things before we start crying that nothing is working.

          This is the process in the US. It’s worked pretty well against other bad actors, and we need to give it some time to play out as defined in due process before more drastic measures.

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            We need to see how far the judicitbranch is willing to go to issue punitive measures and enforce these things before we start crying that nothing is working.

            Sorry to be skeptical bud but we got 4 years to prosecute Trump on his many many crimes when he was not protected by his King of America title and literally NOTHING happened to him…

            You can sit and wait until the very last shred of the judicial systems shows you it has failed… by then 2 things would be true: 1) apparently you’ll be convinced and 2) you won’t have a country anymore

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                Oh come on… they delayed every step of the way until Trump won again and now claim they cannot impose any sentence

                also, it absolutely is the judicial branch’s responsibility to prosecute crimes… that is why gov attorneys are referred to as “prosecutors”

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              Then you haven’t been paying attention. I’ve said this a million times before for people saying what you’re saying: the executive has less far reaching power than Congress or Judicial for a reason. This is that reason.

              Judges can arrest anyone attempting to enforce these fake proclamations that are illegal.

              Judges can seize assets from private banks.

              Judges can put anyone in jail that refuses to comply, and Trump can’t pardon them.

              If these rules don’t hold them there is no constitutional agreement that states need to abide, and they all immediately assume control of military assets in said states. That’s the end of the US, and an immediate assault and destruction of Trump and his psychos in DC.

              They won’t even try to push that. They know what will happen.

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                Judges can issue orders for all that, but they have no enforcement mechanism of their own. Enforcement of orders is done through bodies like the US Marshals, which are ultimately under the executive branch. What happens if a judge issues a ruling, but the President instructs everyone under him not to enforce it?

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                Judges can arrest anyone attempting to enforce these fake proclamations that are illegal.

                Judges can seize assets from private banks.

                Judges can put anyone in jail that refuses to comply, and Trump can’t pardon them.

                Like the judges who could have locked him up before the election?

                I don’t think you are hearing what I’m saying. My faith in our institutions is done. Kaput. I will happily eat a serving of crow if needed, but that’s gonna have to be a good sales pitch because if our institutions worked we wouldn’t be where we are today. We couldn’t stop Trump when he had zero executive power and was not the president.

                Meanwhile, we’re barely a month in: https://www.project2025.observer/

                edited to clarify wording of one sentence

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                  You don’t have a basic understanding of that concept or the Judicial system. Not even worth responding when you come with a fundamental idiotic understanding of how this works.