• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    That sounds like a great way to go, but if the past four years have taught me anything it’s that I shouldn’t expect much of anything in the way of lasting consequences or impediments for Republicans from our courts.

    I’ll get excited when there are some arrests.

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      3 days ago

      Have you noticed how stuck and stalled the Trump admin is right now? This is why. It’s working. We’re not even to the first court confrontation yet, which is due tomorrow. We need to see how far the judicitbranch is willing to go to issue punitive measures and enforce these things before we start crying that nothing is working.

      This is the process in the US. It’s worked pretty well against other bad actors, and we need to give it some time to play out as defined in due process before more drastic measures.

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        We need to see how far the judicitbranch is willing to go to issue punitive measures and enforce these things before we start crying that nothing is working.

        Sorry to be skeptical bud but we got 4 years to prosecute Trump on his many many crimes when he was not protected by his King of America title and literally NOTHING happened to him…

        You can sit and wait until the very last shred of the judicial systems shows you it has failed… by then 2 things would be true: 1) apparently you’ll be convinced and 2) you won’t have a country anymore

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            2 days ago

            Oh come on… they delayed every step of the way until Trump won again and now claim they cannot impose any sentence

            also, it absolutely is the judicial branch’s responsibility to prosecute crimes… that is why gov attorneys are referred to as “prosecutors”

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          Then you haven’t been paying attention. I’ve said this a million times before for people saying what you’re saying: the executive has less far reaching power than Congress or Judicial for a reason. This is that reason.

          Judges can arrest anyone attempting to enforce these fake proclamations that are illegal.

          Judges can seize assets from private banks.

          Judges can put anyone in jail that refuses to comply, and Trump can’t pardon them.

          If these rules don’t hold them there is no constitutional agreement that states need to abide, and they all immediately assume control of military assets in said states. That’s the end of the US, and an immediate assault and destruction of Trump and his psychos in DC.

          They won’t even try to push that. They know what will happen.

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            3 days ago

            Judges can issue orders for all that, but they have no enforcement mechanism of their own. Enforcement of orders is done through bodies like the US Marshals, which are ultimately under the executive branch. What happens if a judge issues a ruling, but the President instructs everyone under him not to enforce it?

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            Judges can arrest anyone attempting to enforce these fake proclamations that are illegal.

            Judges can seize assets from private banks.

            Judges can put anyone in jail that refuses to comply, and Trump can’t pardon them.

            Like the judges who could have locked him up before the election?

            I don’t think you are hearing what I’m saying. My faith in our institutions is done. Kaput. I will happily eat a serving of crow if needed, but that’s gonna have to be a good sales pitch because if our institutions worked we wouldn’t be where we are today. We couldn’t stop Trump when he had zero executive power and was not the president.

            Meanwhile, we’re barely a month in: https://www.project2025.observer/

            edited to clarify wording of one sentence

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              You don’t have a basic understanding of that concept or the Judicial system. Not even worth responding when you come with a fundamental idiotic understanding of how this works.

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                Where the fuck have you been for the last 10 years? Why do you believe that laws, norms, and rules, mean anything to this gang of fucking thieves?