Summary

Donald Trump’s name appears in Jeffrey Epstein’s recently released flight logs seven times, including flights in 1993 and 1994, some with his then-wife Marla Maples and daughter Tiffany.

The documents were released by Attorney General Pam Bondi, who stated this was the first phase of disclosures regarding Epstein’s network.

Bondi requested additional FBI records on Epstein, citing thousands of undisclosed pages.

Epstein, who died in 2019, had connections to Trump, Bill Clinton, and Prince Andrew, though no wrongdoing by Trump has been alleged.

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    Donald Trump’s name appears in Jeffrey Epstein’s recently released flight logs seven times

    Wow, committed rape at least seven times

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    “No wrongdoing by Trump has been alleged.”

    FFS

    I am alleging it now and have alleged it for years: Donald J Trump joined convicted pedophile and sexual abuser Jeffery Epstein in raping an underage girl.

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    Why is this a surprise? It’s undisputed that trump knew Epstein and hung out with him. He even raped a girl who was also “hanging around” Epstein for lack of a better word.

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      For anyone paying attention, it’s no surprise. To the people who blindly follow him, though…well, they’ll probably never hear about this or just brush it off as some liberal shadow government conspiracy against him.

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    No wrongdoing by Trump has been alleged.

    BECAUSE HE SETTLED THE CIVIL SUIT, A TACIT ADMISSION THAT THEY RAPED A THIRTEEN-YEAR-OLD TOGETHER.

    I wish the media would just be straight with us. Obligatory “Fuck Reagan”.

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      I have subscribed to this theory since day 1. He had the most to lose, and was literally in charge of the prison indirectly. He absolutely could have made it happen, but conspiracies involving people on the right clearly don’t exist.

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        And it happened in 2019, a time when he and his people were under a ton of pressure with the upcoming election. Such a high profile case would have been really really bad for the campaign. It’s easier to deny a couple of documents than testimony from Epstein himself.

        just sayin’

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    Let’s be honest: If Epstein was still alive and in prison, he would get a pardon from Trump

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    though no wrongdoing by Trump has been alleged.

    Uhhhh…

    A woman accused Donald Trump of raping her when she was 13 years old in a lawsuit filed in federal court in New York this week. The lawsuit alleges that the assaults happened at parties hosted by billionaire Jeffrey Epstein (for more on his past see our previous story).

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/yes-donald-trump-was-accused-of-raping-a-13-year-old-but-this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/

    Pretty sure being sued for raping one of Epstein’s 13 year old “massage therapists” is allegeding he committed a wrongdoing or two…

    Edit:

    To clarify that article is almost a decade old.

    I was just pointing out that there’s absolutely been enough to cross the threshold of “no alleged wrongdoings”

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      1994, the same year he was flying with Epstein. I have no doubt the orange cancer is/was involved in child trafficking.

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        Same year trump was giving Bill Clinton a bunch of donations, and he then orchestrated the largest reduction of the federal workforce, pretty sure ever.

        This shit ain’t history, the same assholes are still shambling around doing the same shit.

        They’re just a lot less competent and frankly stopped caring we could see what they’re doing.

        The neoliberal movement was basically Randy Marsh microwaving his balls so he could get a medical marijuana prescription.

        They actively encouraged a cancer because they wanted one of the side effects, but they just assumed the cancer wouldn’t keep growing.

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      Reading comprehension. The article is saying that Pam Bondi, has not alleged any wrong doing by Trump through releasing these files.

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        In 2019, Epstein, facing sex trafficking charges, died by suicide in a New York City jail. He had ties to high-profile figures like Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Trump prior to his arrest. Neither Clinton nor Trump have been accused of any wrongdoing. Trump has said that he once considered Epstein a “terrific guy,” but that they later had a falling out.

        That’s how the article puts it.

        But honestly, when people make comments like that, I’m just as likely to block them as help them

        You might want to at least wait till you’re sure you’re right before acting like that.

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          He’s a sex yacht connoisseur.

          I partially think he became so miserable and politically focused because his dick stopped working.

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        Yeah it’s mostly about some real estate developer called William Levitt, and that creepy bit about “oh you know what they did on that yacht” (paraphrased).

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    From what I understand, it’s the same information that was released last time. The people on both sides that have been meticulously keeping up with this are livid that it’s literally no new information. Trump and Co even brought in influencers to hype up the release only for it to be the exact same shit that was released years ago.

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      All the conservative morons I work with are foaming at the mouth talking about this like it’s huge new information and everyone in the flight logs is a kiddie raper.

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        [Padme For the Better Meme Template]

        and everyone in the flight logs is a kiddie raper.

        So they’re including Trump in that assessment, right?

        They include Trump, right??

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    Unless they release verifiably unredacted/unedited documents (and I’m not sure whether/if verifably unredacted/unedited documents are possible in this circumstance) I’m not going to believe they aren’t holding things back out of self preservation anyhow.

    The worst possible time for anything like this to be released is during the Trump admin, because now I have to apply an extra layer of skepticism.

    I don’t even have to go to a conservative sub to know they are or will handwave away his presence on the flight logs, and I know nothing worse is going to be released about Trump or any Trump ally, so what’s even the point aside from a witch hunt for all Trump’s enemies who somehow will be on the list?

    To be clear, I’m sure that Democrats and a disappointingly long list of non-politicians are on that list too, and they should all see the light of day.

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        Look at them overachieving when they only need to worry about memories like goldfish.

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      Well, also the flight logs alone doesn’t mean much. It’s certainly suspicious, but it’s not damning. There was more than one reason to associate with Epstein.

      You need more than just flight logs. The suspect would have to say something about “he likes them young, like me” or something similar.

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        From what I remember the last time this list was circulated, this is the entire flight log of a private pilot who flew to Epstein’s island among other places. So being on the log doesn’t even mean you knew Epstein, just that you used the same pilot.

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        He’s already said that he will not release this information. I’m not sure why this is surprising anyone. They’re releasing stuff that was already out there. None of this is new and there won’t be anything new at least until the next administration if ever.

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        Yeah, you’d need something like Trump saying that he liked to surprise the young contestants at the Trump Beauty Pagents by opening the doors of the changing rooms while the girls were naked.

        Oh, he did say that? Oh. He also talked about flying on his private jet with Epstein and some of the girls to the pagents? Oh.

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    So? You think this will change anything? Just add it to the pile of shit this cheddar-faced fuck has been involved with. It’s not like there’s a higher authority that can do anything about it. I feel like it’s still not setting in for some people just where we are in this collapse. It’s over, guys. There is only 1 path forward.

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      Epstein didn’t create the demand for sex trafficking and grooming minors. he “just” exploited it.

      Is he a monster? absolutely.

      But he didn’t create the demand, and the people creating this chaos? they’re his clients. After Epstein got caught… somebody else became the one to provide the service. because there’s plenty of monsters wanting to fill that role.

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        I don’t know what makes you say that other than pessimism. Times have changed. Epstein absolutely could have been the last on that scale.

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          This is so naive I can’t believe there’s people who think like you. I think Epstein was probably a low level player compared to what goes on in Russia and the Middle East.

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            Yeah, I’m certainly only speaking for the West. But here risk has gone up and public sentiment has changed. In the 1980s people would be more likely to cover for a priest. Today they’re more likely to murder that priest. The church is more likely to turn them over to authorities rather than move them to another parish.

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    What a strange universe we live in. The old US: pushing surveillance and police laws to fight terrorism, drug dealers, and pedophiles. The new US: has a president who is of open to terrorism by supporting far right groups and storming the capitol, has a billionaire on his side who really seems to be on some psychoactive substances, and now this.