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Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has called for an “immediate” summit between the US, EU, and Western allies to discuss Ukraine following a heated White House meeting between Trump and President Zelenskyy.

The February 28 meeting ended without agreement on a minerals deal after escalating into a confrontation over US aid and peace deal conditions.

Meloni warned that Western division “makes us all weaker” as European leaders reaffirmed support for Ukraine.

EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas commented that “the free world needs a new leader,” while European allies worry about being excluded from US-Russia negotiations to end the war.

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    I understand that Meloni is struggling with cognitive dissonance here because she loves Trump and the American far right but also recognizes Russia as the obvious enemy to Europe that they are (and thereby making Ukraine our natural ally).

    But the time for courting is over. America has become a hostile nation and they might actually be our enemy soon.

    Increase European integration and federalization. Increase defense spending and fund a European MIC. Organize into a joint European army. This and only this can be our way forward or we will be crushed between two fascist superpowers.

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      I couldn’t agree more. I’m an outsider to Europe, unfortunately, and find myself as a Canadian increasingly seeing America in much the way Ukraine must have felt about Russia in 2010. Europe is the last hope for democracy and the rule of law in the world right now.

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    Meloni’s summit proposal is a reminder that Europe won’t sit quietly while sidelined by Washington.

    🐱🐱🐱🐱

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    The USA absolutely cannot be trusted as an ally. If a war we’re to break out right now I truly do not know what side I’d be on.

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    What does she think she’s going to accomplish inviting the US, except sabotage?

    Oh wait, she’s a fascist – that’s exactly what she’s hoping to accomplish.

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    Italy needs to understand that thinking you can reason with Trump makes Europe weaker.

    In fact, this works with all countries. He’s a literal baby. He doesn’t understand or want to hear your reasoning because he knows he’s right. As soon as everybody understands that, the quicker they can get to the task of isolating the US as much as possible.

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        Italian here, I feel ashamed of our PM. It is even more ridiculous how she endorsed the relationship with US just a couple of weeks ago and then Trump started doing even more shitty things.

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        Not to downplay Italian politics, But Trump is not acting in good faith either. Trump is a serious piece of shit too.

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      I am surprised that after all what have been happening in just the last weeks any entity would consider Trump’s words to have any value of any kind, they end having no reliability nor accountability, how could be worth any reasoning attempt?

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    Europe really needs to beef up its defense industries and whatnot. America’s unreliability is becoming an existential threat and it’s clear that Trump and Co will be extremely opportunistic and quick to align with Russia.

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    Who’s gonna be representing murica there? Is it gonna be this happy threesome?

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      Looks like Rubio is not yet used to sofa fucking.

      Actually such a disappointment from him, after his talks about Ukraine few years ago.

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        The Secretary of State implements foreign policy but doesn’t decide it.

        Honestly, if I were Rubio I would have declined the Secretary of State spot. At the moment, I doubt it does much to help any Presidential ambitions he might have and he probably had more actual power in the Senate rather than at State.

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          Yeah, you’re right.

          At this point we either end up as a dictatorship (please God I hope not) or his current role right now will disqualify him from presidency in the future.

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          I’ve seen some analysts claim that just this one time Zelensky needed to be more of an actor and smile and wave through the bullshit. But I disagree, if you stand for nothing, you will keep getting walked over, if not by putin, by trump, like little Marco here.

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            I suspect the whole thing was premeditated, so it wouldn’t have mattered. Does the VP normally interrupt the president when talking to other world leaders? Zelensky smiling and tacitly agreeing to Putin’s narrative was never going to happen. I also can’t imagine any European leader going to the White House and saying, “Yes, we’ve treated you very unfairly. The European Union was just a conspiracy to screw over America and we’re very sorry, Dear Leader…”

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              When I saw the latest deal, it didn’t look as bad (I mean it was bad, but not horribly bad as the initial suggestion) so was wondering what changed again. Yeah, looks like he was baited and this was done on purpose.

              Trump wants to go all the way with Russia, but there are still Republicans that support Ukraine or at least dislike Russia and he wanted to show them that Zelenskyy is just an ungrateful warmonger.

              Another thing is that trump invited Russian press to this meeting (while American AP is banned).