Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had trapped the remaining Ukrainian soldiers in its western Kursk region, where they have held on for more than seven months in one of the most important battles of the war.

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    17 hours ago

    After reading this article, I have to say that the headline/image are pretty misleading. He was talking about Kursk, the region of Russia that Ukraine invaded: he said it’s back under Russian control and the Ukraine forces there are surrounded. Then he said they have two options: surrender or die.

    I’m not defending Putin here. Just that he’s evil enough without actually taking things out of context to twist what actually happened into some clickbait headline.

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      I’m a staunch Ukraine supporter and I agree with your assessment this is frankly clickbait. It’s important we hold ourselves accountable and only stick to the facts. If we don’t, we give over the narrative to those who have the power to influence it.

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    Funny how Putin offers “mercy” while bombing hospitals. His dictionary must define peace as “total submission.”

    🐱🐱

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    Its wild to think that when this started I was not married and my now wife then girlfriend was still in college. Time flies. Aside from that, what the fuck putin?

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      Probably important to note that in American English, college refers to tertiary education (‘university’ elsewhere)

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          For most, “College” is the first 4 or so years getting a bachelor’s degree. Beyond that is “Grad school” where you get Graduate degrees like PhDs, Masters degrees, and whatnot.

          I only did undergrad and the degree was in acting so take what I say with a grain of salt as I am an authority on practically nothing.

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    I’m amazed he’s offering “Surrender or die”, I figured he’d pull an Israel and go “Surrender AND die”

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      Can’t happen soon enough man. I wake up every morning and go to Google news front page hoping to see it. I hate that my mind is being spent on having to hate this ugly, evil person.

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    So… Let me check I get this right on the timeline.

    America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.

    Categorical that Russia is not serious about ending the war.

    Next steps boys

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    For anyone not reading the article he is specifically talking about any troops Ukraine has left in the Kursk region as there has been a general pullback into Ukraine from Kursk in the last few days. This is not about the wider peace negotiations.

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      I feel like fast doesn’t change anything. “Surrender or die” is not very “peac-y” whether you’re in Kursk or somewhere else.

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        That is how war generally works. Until a peace is negotiated you would like the other side to surrender or die. Yeah Putin started it, but that doesn’t change the nature of war.

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          Right. But the point people are trying to make is that the title is somehow “misleading”.

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      For anyone not reading the article

      ie. everybody in the thread

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      Strange because the actual title of the article mentions that fact. it appears the link seeks to make it as clickbaity as possible.

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    Europe, I hope y’all are doing the whole “speak quietly and carry a big stick.”

    Because if Putin steam rolls Ukraine, he’s not stopping there, and now he has the US government under his control too.

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      They have scheduled a committee meeting to decide where to plant the tree from which they might someday get big sticks.

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      If Europe really wanted to stop Russia, they would’ve sent armies into Ukraine.

      “We don’t want to escalate because it might start WW3!”

      But Putin is going to attack you guys anyways when he’s done with Ukraine.

      “Yes, but this is the rhetoric dumbasses have been told to peddle so that’s what we’re doing!”

      I still remember when people said Ukraine shouldn’t mine its border because it would be seen as “escalation.” Funny how the wrong-crowd always scatters like roaches after the damage is done.

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      Europe is doing the opposite of “speak quietly and carry a big stick”

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        Finland isn’t what I’m quite so worried about yet.

        Its more Estonia. And Latvia. And Moldova, Romania, Poland, Chezchia, Slovakia, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc.

        Hungary and Belarus I think we can say are pretty much already Russia.

        Also I didn’t know about the Kaliningrad Oblast, anyone know what the fuck happened there?

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              There are two "why"s: Why Kaliningrad became.part of Soviet Union and why it ended up as part of the Russia in 1991. Here the answers to both:

              After WWII, Germany had to give USSR a lot of land as a form of reparations. Mostly this was done by handing parts of Germany in the east to Poland, expanding Poland to the west AND them handing the same amount of territory from Poland to USSR, essentially forcibly moving Poland westwards. This was quite an a-hole thing to do to Poland. Also, it had the weird effect that the culture and dialects of easternmost Poland suddenly moved to westernmost parts of Poland. There is a weird dialect border where if you go west past the old German border, suddenly you have eastern dialects. But, the Königsberg area had been an integral part of Germany for a long time before WWII began, so it was possible to simply annex it to USSR and that’s it. Germans were expelled from it, and the area was largely empty. Soviet Union decided to make it part of the state called RSFSR, not a new state, even though the annexed parts of easternmost Germany were not connected to the rest of RSFSR.

              When parts of Poland were annexed to USSR in the process of moving Poland westwards, those parts were made part of the “Ukrainian Socialist Soviet Republic” (which was called “USSR” within Soviet bureaucracy, heh!)

              Why the Kaliningrad area wasn’t made a part of the neighbouring “Lithuanian Socialist Soviet Republic”, is an interesting question! Probably because in Ukraine the Russification was already quite far, in Lithuania absolutely not. (EDIT: well, of course those parts of Poland were predominantly Ukrainian-speaking, and Soviets allowed the Ukrainian-speakers to remain and only deported the Poles from their homes. And at the same time, the new Kaliningrad area was completely emptied of people, which does make a difference!)

              In any case, in 1991 the Soviet Union fell. Each state became an independent country. Kaliningrad was a part of RSFSR, and that became the Russian Federation, so Kaliningrad ended up as a part of the Russia.

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    Man, what a peace-loving guy! Damn Ukraine for not stopping the war! >:/