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  • My personal example of that is from Italian (L2): it took me a few years to be able to reliably distinguish pairs like “pena” (pity) and “penna” (feather), simply because Portuguese (L1) doesn’t care about consonant+vowel length.

    I’d like to assume you changed the words of the mishap, and you we’re actually in a restaurant, and instead of ordering “penne arrabbiata”, you asked for an angry penis, “pene arrabbiata”.

    Like Tuukka there in a reply above this pointed out, the vowel length in the word “tapaan sinut” and “tapan sinut” in Finnish is very important, as the first one is “i will meet you” and the second one is “I will kill you”. You can also change the consonants while having the same vowels if you just use the lemma of the word. “Tappaa” = to kill, “tapaa” = to meet

    And a habit as in a custom, tradition, personal habit, would be “tapa”, which is actually a synonym for “kill” in imperative form.

    I like to imagine how fucking hard it would be to learn Finnish and thank my lucky stars I’ll never have to.


  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoFuck Cars@lemmy.worldMurica
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    3 days ago

    Pff.

    Mister hasn’t ever been in a proper winter or understand how one drives in winter.

    It’s rare they crash, yeah. But it’s happened and and then there’s lots of tiny personal injuries, at the worst. Because of the speed in cities.

    My car would slip too if i kept summers on it instead of quality winter tires

    You don’t understand how friction works with larger vehicles. They don’t change them for a reason, not because we’re a cheap country who doesn’t regulate safety.

    You can dig up data if you want to be but thinking a bus is less prone to losing control than a personal vehicles shows your inexperience.


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    And if there’s no trams or subs, but buses?

    Here in Turku we have good public transport, but they’re buses. Unlike personal vehicle, buses don’t require winter tires. Theyre literally driving on slicks. (it’s because there’s so many and so much weight).

    This will sound racist, but my city has a problem of hiring bus drivers and quite a lot of them may not be as experienced in driving in winter conditions.

    There’s also no seat buses on the city buses. (Long distance ones do)

    A personal vehicle will have studded tires, won’t have to use the completely shiny bus lanes (the buses stopping and going with those slicks really grind them into mirrors), and has seatbelts and airbags. So definitely personal transport is safer in my city.

    Here what the bus stops and lanes look like at times. And this isn’t even the worst, just one say napped a photo as it was slightly frozen.

    Here’s like worse weather. That. But everywhere. Then the most dangerously one is that plus a hint of powdery snow, because then you won’t see the super slippery ice underneath and step on it unprepared.



  • Oh it’s so hard sometimes to get these differences because one just… doesn’t get it. Doesn’t have experience of the difference.

    In Finnish vowel length matters a lot, and when there are non-native speakers, it’s painfully obvious, as that’s something that’s hard to “get right” if you haven’t been exposed to the difference since you were a kid.

    It’s probably a somewhat subjective feeling of mine, but I’m pretty sure it’s easier to pass as a native speaker of English to English native speakers than it would be to do the same for Finnish. Similarly I’d have a lot of trouble learning the tonal and other minor differences in lots of Asian languages as Finnish or English or any other language I speak doesn’t really utilise them as much. So I’m “deaf” to them. For now.