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I’m not the creator of the instance. I just happened upon it and thought it’d be cool to share.
Pertaining empty and small communities, that’s how most communities start: one person creates it, people find it and contribute. Most don’t just go from 0 to thousands of contributors and followers in a second. It takes time.
Also, I don’t see multiple communities on different instances as a problem. We’re on the fediverse, not reddit. There doesn’t have to be one single “Europe” community. There can be a Europe community on a Europe loving instance, on a Europe hating instance, on an Italian instance and thus posting in Italian or from an Italian perspective, on a teddy bear instance that just talks about European teddy bears, whatever. It seems to me like the centralist mindset is still very ingrained in people despite being in a different place.
Also, I don’t understand the feddit.org thing. Why is a German instance “feddit.org” as if it’s the main feddit instance?
I never said it should not be done, I just said the approach is likely not successful. I would be careful with the “centralist mindset”. Centralization towards instances or towards communities are very much different things.
I don’t really understand what you mean here, could you elaborate?
I mean that the .org ending makes it look like something international. If I’m not mistaken .org stands for organisation. So it’s like visiting “The Feddit Organisation”, but the instance is primary German. The sidebar of the instance is German first, English second. It’s just confusing and IMO also misleading. They could’ve picked “lemmy.de” or “feddit.au” or something similar.
Is disagree. It means to me that there is still a preference for centralisation in the mind, which is limiting. Thinking the same will lead to the same outcome. Just like the people who left twitter, went to mastodon, immediately went “but this isn’t twitter, why isn’t this twitter?” and started demanding all the twitter features that made twitter toxic in the first place.
If you think centralist in a federation, you will always feel uncomfortable and push for centralist ideas, ideals, and goals.
There is nothing “international” about an organisation. Almost every county has them.
You still need a minimum number of active contributors to keep the communities active. If everyone wants to post to their own community, they should switch to a microblog format, there everyone has their own feed.
Communities consolidation happens all the time (see !fedigrow@lemm.ee ), because people get tired of “shouting into the void” on their community alone, and join forces with other people on a shared community.
I read “new” a lot and on some profiles, it it is my default. I don’t “suffer” from choosing where to post, because I don’t really care that much about upvotes. Most things are a one off share and that’s it - except for questions, then I try to pick the biggest community. There are people to solve their conundrum by just cross-posting to all relevant communities, which is also fine by me.
Personally, I’d rather have multiple small and active communities than centralised, large communities with many small and dead communities.
As you see, I’m quite against centralisation and merging, and what-not. It’s probably a thing we disagree on.
If it’s a one off share thing it’s probably fine the way you do it.
I guess our perspectives are different because I’m more active on communities that are active “in the long run”, such as !buyeuropean@feddit.uk, !movies@lemm.ee, !privacy@programming.dev
Also, most of the value of Reddit and Lemmy comes from the comments. Having splintered discussions in several similar communities prevents interesting conversations from happening.
feddit.au would not make sense, last time I checked Australia is not a german speaking countr. lemmy.de was one of the proposed new domains, iirc, but the users eventually chose feddit.org specifically because we did want to make it a clear successor to feddit.de, but we didn’t want to tie it to a country specific tld like .de, .at, or ch to indicate that none of the german speaking countries is “more important” or “prioritized” over the other.
Austria. Dunno what their domain is.
Originally there was feddit.de with wintermute as admin. But when the fediverse needed him most, he disapeared.
Also if i understand it correctly feddit.org is for the german speaking countries (DE, AT & CH), not just germany.
Specifically to accommodate hosting communities like !europe actually. feddit-org is explicitly meant as a de+en (language, not country) instance, adhering to DE/AT/CH law, and hosted in AT.
We had a vote on that topic at some point about that on feddit-de where feddit-org won out against e.g. lemminge-de.
Centralized services are simply easier to understand. And comments are a major issue: !europe here has vastly more comments than the community of the same name on europe-pub. If both become popular, commenters will split up between the two instances, making both communities seem emptier and more disjoint.
In any case, while I am not super happy about the approach that europe-pub takes, I am happy it exists and provides another option, should things fail in another part of the fediverse.
That said, the Fediverse Foundation, i.e. the Austrian non-profit running this instance feels like a very good home for the moment.
It is an issue when the multiple communities have the same content and rules, and just splinter the conversation.
As someone who is doing most of the heavylifting on !buyeuropean@feddit.uk, I would rather have people posting additional content to it than just crossposting the content to a new community where nobody comments.
Examples:
There is no main feddit instance. It can help avoid the calckey problem (calckey.world, the software it ran was originally called calckey, then it rebranded to firefish, then it shut down, and switched to a fork, sharkey). Its just a mix of “fediverse” and reddit.