Draft agreement seeks to ensure convicted extremists from parties such as the AfD cannot contest elections

Germany’s centre-Right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party and the centre-Left Social Democrats (SPD), which are holding coalition talks, have proposed a law that will block people with multiple extremism convictions from standing in elections.

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  • eee (they/them)@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    162·
    1 day ago

    Why would it suppress left politicians? It’s not like any of them have multiple extremism convictions, that’s usually rightwing politicians.

    • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.orgEnglish
      41·
      1 day ago

      Because they might get convicted of something a judge would call left wing extremism. I have zero trust in this system.

        • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          202·
          1 day ago

          You are much smarter than the users I encountered below, who downvoted the following examples I provided:

          It’s no different to a “means test” for voting. It sounds great initially, but falls apart if you dig deeper. The virtue of the means test is determined by who governs the means test. Once you create it, you have created the attack vector, and all the fascists have to do if they weasel their way into power is simply change the terms of the means test — you’ve already completed and normalized the hard part for them. As an example, Trump is currently using a 200 year old law to deport any immigrant an ICE agent chooses, without trial. He’s using this law because it gave the president blanket unilateral powers to apply it as they see fit.

          Another example from the US that has assisted fascism in denying blacks their right to vote; an old law declared anyone convicted of a felony ineligible to vote, then conservatives created the war on drugs to target and persecute blacks and the left. All they had to do was make non-violent drug offences a felony. As a result, millions of blacks have been denied the right to vote. All because the gov could decide who could and couldn’t vote because of X, and any future gov could control the terms of X.

          Extremists need to be defeated, but you can’t defeat fascism with the tools of fascism. If the 2nd example I gave above were never created, America may have never devolved into MAGA/fascism.

          • msage@programming.devEnglish
            21·
            12 hours ago

            I’m not sure I agree with your. Acting like your 2nd example wasn’t created because of the fascist nature of the US government, I have a bridge to sell to you.

            US has never stopped being fascist, they just got beaten by Germany at the world stage with the reveal.

            So no, US was always going to MAGA, mostly because every civic institution was ran over by money.

            And can be stop pretending that fascists follow laws? It’s not like they won’t create new ones if the existing don’t fit their narrative. Or just do whatever, not even pretend to hide behind excuses.

            You are not arming them with laws, you are arming them with making general public needlessly suffer, like no social safety nets, uncontrolled rent hikes, inflation through the roof etc.

    • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
      29·
      1 day ago

      For instance partaking in seating blockades on the routes of Nazi demonstrations is considered left wing “extremism” and could be charged as crime ranging from “coercion” to “breach of public peace / rioting”. Now whether it is convicted as such is a different topic, but for instance many climate activists have been convicted with prison times for glueing themselves to the streets. Many courts consider this to be violent coercion. So making yourself vulnerable and unable to act, but in the way of some car, this is violent extremism in Germany.