• DemandOk@lemmy.ca
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    1 hour ago

    we should increase export taxes on all fronts to the US, until they agree to stop this bullshit 51st state crap etc.

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      12 minutes ago

      I think there should be a ratcheting structure, like an additional 5.1% everytime it’s mentioned publicly by his regime.

      • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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        2 hours ago

        That’s not what is happening. I know it’s upsetting that there are people who believe differently than you do. That’s what this article is about: that there exist people with some truly upsetting opinions, and furthermore, that we know a bit about their demographic make up.

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          The more you platform them the more voice and visibility they get, which ends up drawing support for this 51st nonsense. I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit. They should stop voting for policies and parties that privilege the rich. But they’re too dumb for even that.

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            I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit.

            How the fuck else do you hope to… no, never mind. We’re not having a discussion, you’re just making emotional expressions. But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or “dumb” might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.

    • LucJenson@lemm.ee
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      10 hours ago

      I recently met two Albertans out here in South Korea at a bar. They were on the other side of the bar from me, and when they walked past, I greeted them as an Ontarian and offered to shake their hands. They both declined the handshake and proudly announced, “We’re not on the same team.”

      That was a few weeks ago. I’m still disturbed by it. I knew Albertans had a reputation because of the politicking there. But I hadn’t realized it would be so blatant. That same night, two South Africans happily asked me my thoughts on Trump, and I was perhaps too honest in my first statement, and they grew upset with me and insisted he was good for Canadians and South Africans, both.

      I left the bar not long after. Haven’t seen those four come back, so there is a bright side to the story, at least.

    • Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca
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      4 hours ago

      Conservative Americans in shambles reading this as they find out that we do Infact own guns in Canada and are proud to own them. We just don’t get all fucking pussy about not being able to own fully automatic ones with 50 round magazines lol.

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    16 hours ago

    Honestly, Canada should shut down their border to the US period… I wish this could happen, but I feel it is unrealistic.

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      8 hours ago

      And get all our fucking data off Azure and AWS servers already. The fact we did this in the first place has bothered me since day 1. I don’t care if the data centres are in Canada, they’re owned by a foreign company and “trust me bro” isn’t a security policy.

  • Altrex@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    This is the stupidest thing ever. If he really wants a 51st state then Puerto Rico is right there and wants to gain statehood.

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      2 hours ago

      It’s difficult to invade when in a recession and you have to deploy military against your own citizens to protect Tesla buildings.

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      The USA needs congressional approval to officially go to war against another sovereign nation. Like with Afghanistan or Iraq. BUT Republicans control the house and Senate, and sure if they’re that fucking delusional they could vote for it. But with that being said, it would 100% rip America apart and they fucking deserve it. Not only would we not put up with that shit and I would gladly shoot any foreign soldier on our land, it would mean the Russians getting exactly what they wanted.

      Americans reading this, GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER or you or your friends are going to start fucking dying on our fucking land for no other reason than a fat orange fucks vanity. You will be ostracized by the developed world and I for one will never fucking forgive you.

      • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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        Previous presidents have famously committed acts of war without the consent of congress. Including assassinations and drone strikes on civilians.

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          Oh 100%. But for a full fledged WAR? It takes a lot of congressional and public will power to do that. Just saying that for them to go ahead and declare war so easily with zero public insight, would cause them to rip themselves apart

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        They voted for this. So I don’t have any sympathy for them saying Trump doesn’t represent them. He does. They go on and on about how they’re the greatest country in the world, and how their government is ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’. They’re more responsible for the actions of their government than any other nation is for theirs.

        And the American mentality is that their pride will never let them admit if they’re wrong. So even though they may know that talks of annexation and taking away our country are beyond offensive, they can’t say it. They have to say that it’s for some greater good that no one else can see, even if they know it’s BS. But the problem is, short of NATO putting troops in our country to help fight off an invasion, I don’t know what would stop the US from just trying to take whatever they want in the name of ‘freedom’. And the funny thing is, on the Cato Human Freedom Index, which measures a person’s person, economic and civil freedom, we rank higher than the US. We’re #11, and the US, the leader of the free world, is #17. So how are they the ‘freest nation’ in the world? Why would we downgrade ourselves by joining them? We wouldn’t. No one would. Unless it was by force.

        I’ve said this before, and I meant it then; the mentality of the US is that they’re basically a r***** telling their victim that if they lay down and let them (USA) have their way with them, they won’t get hurt. THAT’s the US right now. They’re our neighbours, but they’re NOT our friends. And they probably never were. They just finished hurting other nations, and decided to turn their attention to us.

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      13 hours ago

      Looks like. All the signs are there and steps have been taken in preparation. The forcing of Canadians to register and get finger printed in the next 30 days was the icing on the cake. Now we wait and see how this unfolds.

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      He clearly wants Canada, but it’s not clear he wants it that bad. If he thinks more expensive electricity is a nasty move he’s probably not too hot about stuff and people blowing up.

      I suspect the next few months will be a lot like the past one for Canada. Not better or worse.

    • cherrykraken@lemmy.ca
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      16 hours ago

      Is it bad that I want him to try?

      Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force, and even then Emperor Clementine would need a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to ratify and prove the annexation was legal, which I doubt he’ll get.

      F*ck around and find out, as it were.

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        I dunno, is it bad that you’ve brainwashed yourself and are now actively radicalizing yourself? It’s a judgement call.

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        Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force

        Fucking What

        Was your historian a rabid white supremacist who pretends none of the Indian Wars happened, much less the Mexican or Spanish-American Wars?

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          No, you’re absolutely correct! I meant it more along the lines of the “We take nothing by conquest” rhetoric, which is equally hypocritical considering the reality. I didn’t really want to add an “/s” to the statement… Yes, the US killed a lot of people in Mexican territory, but then they made up a treaty and paid $15mil for half of the land 🤷 (heavily simplified).

          But it’s 2025, and I’m honestly not sure if the geopolitical climate is in a better or worse state than it was 170 years ago. And if not worse on average, it’s definitely widely polarized.

      • WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca
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        Ya I want him to try as well. I am so fucking sick of republicans and magats dragging down the entire human race. Can you imagine what the world would be like if bush didn’t steal the election from al gore? No war in the middle east, probably would have resulted is way better relations between countries all around the world. Would have resulted in more prosperity for everyone. Would have been a massive coordinated effort to fight climate change. They’d probably have healthcare by now. To this day republicans have been hell bent on destroying the world. I hope they come to Canada. Wiping them out would be the highest possible purpose my life could ever serve. Even if I could only take out one of those magat freaks with me, it would be worth it. Lets fucking go, ill be ready.

      • Devanismyname@lemmy.ca
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        Even if he fails, our quality of life would significantly decrease. Not really wanting to become an insurgent and get my brains blown out by a delta force operator or something. Not saying we should back down in any case, but the prospect of an invasion like that is scary af.

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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        I also want him to try, mostly because I think that may finally be the straw that gets someone to successfully snipe him. All it will take is some pissed off hosier with better aim than the last guy.

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        Yes, it’s bad. We’d lose. Maybe they’d lose too, but if so it’s going to involve Taliban-like timelines and Afghanistan-like living conditions that whole time.

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          Yeah, as much as I’d like to pretend it will also prompt the Second American Civil War and swathes of military officers refusing orders I simply don’t have faith in Americans to do the right thing.

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      I don’t see how he could. Too many people in the U.S. like Canada, the domestic support would be near nill.

      Maybe if he had 6-10 more years to drum up support.

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        The problem is this harmful and terrifying idea of annexing Canada will remain even after trump is gone. Vance is a young dude, him or whoever is the successor will advance Trunps policies and priorities, after the next president even. Canada needs to shift away from the US long term.

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        A lot of people in the US will say they don’t support it, and will speak out against it, but when the forces deploy, the American people won’t do anything to stop it. They won’t stage walkouts, or take actions that will cripple their economy at home in protest, because it will cause them inconvenience and pain.

        They’ll just say they’re against it, that they’re morally outraged, and will offer ‘thoughts and prayers’. Nothing more.

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    17 hours ago

    ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA,

    My company:

    Has two shops 1 in Canada and 1 in the US; US shop now solely handles all American related jobs while Canada handles any job globally, besides the US.

    Real smart play here ol trump

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      17 hours ago

      “Let’s kill all the jobs now for a few new kinds of jobs that probably won’t come to fruition” -Trump, American genius.

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    17 hours ago

    Dear Trump Cabinet members,

    The earlier you 25th this guy, the better chance you have of keeping your cronyism going for the foreseeable future.

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    18 hours ago

    Is it really a “longtime tariff” when it was implemented a week ago? I guess when you have the memory of a goldfish…