You think you’re as embarrassed as you could be? We’re just getting started. You can’t even see rock bottom from where we are now.

Do you think this is new information to me? I don’t understand what your point is.

Will they? They should but I’m not convinced the EU has the will to make that happen.

You’re justifying Dems being ineffectual. We don’t want to hear it anymore. We’re tired of watching Republicans play dirty to get what they want while Democrats sit on their hands and complain that governing is hard. Republicans fight despite the odds and that’s why they win more than they should. Democrats could do the same but they choose not to. I don’t want their excuses. I want them to fight even if they eventually lose the battle. Giving up before it starts is completely unacceptable.

I’m pointing out that delaying bad things is it’s own benefit. Your original argument relies on the premise that a delayed outcome is no different than an instantaneous outcome and that is obviously not true. I’m not sure why you need me to connect those dots for you.

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This is the same excuse I’ve heard for 15 years, even while they had a majority. Meanwhile, Republicans seem able to get shit done even while in the minority. I’m tired of excuses. Do something useful or get the fuck out of government.

What are the metrics they are judging this salvation by if not personal financial gain? I was under the impression this was the primary motivation for their support of him.

You say that but articles like this don’t fit that narrative. There are Republican voters who like Bernie and they have been showing up to his rallies for years. I know several Trump voters who have said they would have voted for Sanders if they got the chance. The idea that progressives don’t appeal to conservatives is neoliberal propaganda. Progressives hit on alot of the same problems as conservative politicians they just have different solutions (and a lot less bullshit). Neoliberalism just pretends that the status quo is fine. Despite the name conservatives are largely unhappy with the status quo. That’s how we got Trump.

Just living life.

Out here crushing it.

Grabbing the bull by the horns.

Breaking necks and cashing checks.

Doing my best to butter the toast of life.

Don’t challenge a person of few words to a contest in cutting a conversation short. I could do this all day.