I have EDS, which has caused POTS + CFS as comorbidities. Prior to developing POTS and CFS, I was the sharpest person in my class, I did things very quickly, and understood things faster than others. This was constantly pointed out by people. I experienced an incredibly delayed diagnosis of POTS. Normally, on average, it takes about 4 years from the onset of symptoms to be diagnosed. For me it took 12 and I can’t help but feel like having an undiagnosed heart issue for so long caused some neurological damage.
I am on a heart medication for POTS called ivabradine and it has helped me so much, however the symptom that still lingers the most is the brain fog, which is extremely embarrassing. Some days I can’t even form a coherent sentence, I’ll say down instead of up, I’ll forget what someone said in the middle of their sentence, I’ll forget what day it is, be unable to process what’s directly in front of me, or forget where I am spatially. It’s so bad that my family have likened me to a dementia patient. I have the hypovolemic variant of POTS, meaning I’m always deficient in blood volume so my ears are constantly ringing and I have an achy neck from insufficient blood flow to my head.
Salt + lots of water helps but it doesn’t save me from daily embarrassment caused by my brain fog. Everything about me is slow now, even my physical movement is slow and it’s like I’m moving through water. It pisses me off so much because this isn’t me. I genuinely feel like I’m a bad person because of this, and it’s affecting my confidence so badly I’ll avoid doing simple tasks.
Now, I’ve heard that amphetamines/CNS stimulants are to brain fog as ivabradine is to POTS. Ivabradine has worked wonders for issues relating to my heart rate and has also helped my circulation somewhat because each heartbeat is stronger compared to before. I’m constantly rushing things trying to make my body go fast and do things fast (because in my mind fast = my old self, and my old self = good) and something will happen that’ll trip me up.
I don’t know what it’s called when you have a bad conscience, but she bullies me so badly when stuff like this happens. I’ll make a mistake due to brain fog and I’ll be legit angry all day with thoughts like “what the fuck, even a 5 year old wouldn’t have issues with that” “how can you live normally if you don’t even know what day it is?” “you’re such an embarrassment, your old self would be ashamed” sometimes I feel like that bad conscience IS my old self, and she’s ashamed of me. I’m completely aware of how I’m messing up on the simplest of things which makes this so much more enraging. It’s like I’m having to use 100% of my brain power just to make a cup of tea.
I am due for a telephone appointment with my cardiologist soon but I might just book an appointment with my GP specifically about the brain fog. If being on prescription speed makes me more like my old/true self then so be it, screw the stigma.
Ugh, it sucks getting dumber but being smart enough to notice it.
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It really is. I’m aware of every mistake I’m making but it’s like trying to move my fingers rapidly when they’re too cold, I can’t stop it. Thanks for telling me about the ME community, I’ll check it out!
I’ve had a similar experience with schizophrenia. The medications really dumb me down. I guess that’s why a lot of schizos don’t take their meds.
I have brain fog due to perimenopause. I used to be so smart - I have degrees in physics and statistics - and now I have to use a calculator for basic arithmetic. I’ll start a sentence and my train of thought will just evaporate. And when I try to concentrate on anything even a little bit complex, I lose track of my thoughts, it’s like there’s TV static where my thoughts belong.
And yeah, then the self-recriminations begin, plus a deep frustration that feels desperate and almost like rage and grief mixed together. And partly I think that’s an overreaction, but then again, I’m not sure it is.
It’s horribly depressing to go from smart to dumb. And I know my situation isn’t nearly as bad as yours, but please know you have my sympathy. It really sucks and I hope it gets better for you soon. 🤍
You described it so well! That’s exactly how I feel. I understand how frustrating it is, especially when it happens in public because people make so many assumptions. Thanks for the kind words ❤️
Have you looked into mast cell activation disorder/syndrome (MCAD/MCAS) at all? I also have EDS (hypermobile type, hEDS) plus MCAS, which is a common comorbidity. I don’t have POTS, luckily. Tackling MCAS issues was what got rid of my brain fog and CFS, as well as vastly improving my EDS issues. I’m actually reversing my joint hypermobility and I’m mentally sharper than I’ve been in decades. It’s wild.
I’m full of info if you have any questions. Us chronic pain, incurable types gotta stick together.
I have, but doctors don’t suspect it. I find my brain fog correlates to episodes of bad circulation/low blood volume, in that it gets worse whenever my blood volume or circulation is low/bad. How did they diagnose you with MCAS and is it easily treatable? Thanks
MCAS is very rare, and you dont show any symptoms of it, especially they look at your blood cells for abnormalities too.
I’ve had so many blood tests done when they were trying to figure out what was wrong with me pre POTS/EDS/CFS diagnosis
I’m not going to lie: it’s a pain in the ass to diagnose and treat because it manifests differently between people. Even the lab tests aren’t reliable. I was diagnosed due to the fact the treatments (antihistamines and mast cell stabilizers) improved my CFS, EDS, brain fog, dysautonomia, “fun” GI issues, and anaphylactoid episodes.
My issues are certain foods and stress. If I consume too much alcohol, wheat or sugar, if I stop eating dairy then start again, and/or I experience extended bouts of intense physical and/or psychological stress, my EDS pain increases, blood flow to my extremities decreases (cold hands and feet like crazy), my GI tract goes haywire, I feel cold constantly even when I’m truly hot, I’ll develop rashes and eczema, and I’ll start experiencing CFS and random bouts of brain fog. If it goes on long enough or intensely for a short time (e.g., I eat an entire cake), I’ll have anaphylactoid episodes - not full anaphylaxis, but a lesser version that feels like a random, intense panic attack with no trigger. I was actually “diagnosed” with a panic disorder early on. Xanax just made me feel calmer while my body kept freaking out.
I first was clued into it because I noticed my symptoms were better when I took cetirizine, an antihistamine, and intensified when I stopped. My doctor had me try cromolyn sodium and, a few weeks later, my GI symptoms had vastly improved and the remaining symptoms were better. We’ve since tacked on a few more meds and I underwent a lot of therapy to get my stress levels down. Now I’m stable, where before I could barely function at work or at home.
Martering yourself because of it will make it worse, so the first step would be to accept it. Then you can slowly build up your confidence, build new connections in your brain and the fog will slowly go away.
Believe me when I say that there’s a lot of people out there with a similar fog since covid hit them. They wont talk about it unless they arent afraid of your judgement. I think talking about it helps, and people will open themselves.
SportSleep, water, omega-3.Not sport. Exercise makes CFS worse.
Yeah, my bad.
If I talk about sport, I meant to just move around a lot instead of sitting on the couch.
My sport is doing short hikes and going by bike everywhere.
Sometimes I forget that people cant read my mind and should be more careful.
I shouldve suggested sleep though, as I think a healthy sleep does a lot for the brain, which does make me think that amphetamines are not the best idea, especially considering your body acts like doing sports during the high.
Thanks for calling me out.
The thing is, with CFS/ME even moving from one part of the house to the other is exercise. Watching an enticing movie is exercise. Having too many emotions is exercise. Once you have this condition you really learn how strenuous living is.