Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.
One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.
Didn’t the CEO of Proton lick the Trump boot recently?
They did, yes.
I’m assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.
“oh yeah, encrypt me daddy”
People on here like complain and will tell that he has his balls in his mouth when in reality all he did was show some hope after the Republicans appointed someone who has a track record of being anti-bigtech. I still think the way the situation was handled terribly, but to say that he is MAGA would be a hell of a stretch in my opinion
So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”
show some hope huh
Yeah so uh youre proving my point, he’s happy that the nominated person is more favorable to small businesses than the one previously nominated by the Democrats. Wether it’s true or false I don’t know, but this post (and his other posts form before and after the event) to me don’t suggest MAGA
Then I just don’t know what to tell ya. It’s right there.
“limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen
This is even more ridiculous given they have a bluesky account and all they need to do is follow the bridge and their content will be ported to mastodon. Literally 5 seconds.
Oh yeah that’s prob it. On Reddit they can delete any negative comments
Same on Bluesky actually. They can hide comments they don’t like in response to their posts.
Welp. Guess I’m never using that bluesky account I created to pad their growth metrics.
It was made because of the rampant harassment problem on twitter.
But I guess it’s counterproductive for companies. Because you want to scrutinise them.
Yeah not even copy paste, this has been easily automatable for years.
especially as it’s not even their own body they don’t have enough to deal with.
Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.
Even if you agree with Proton’s positions it’s clear that Andy is just tanking the company’s image with such rookie leadership mistakes.
Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?
I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.
All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it’s going to, and Andy Yen’s social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren’t going to win back.
If so, I’d expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other “I’m being watched!!” kooks.
They’re focusing on platforms that allow them to censor discussion.
On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.
due to limited ressources
Is it that hard to post the same thing on various social media? Maybe it is, I wouldn’t know. But that sounds like a shitty excuse.
It looks like they’re not up to date on X tho, hopefully they drop that shit. And they’re on Bluesky, which, if not Mastodon, is a little bit better I guess.
I really don’t get the hidden idea behind leaving Mastodon.
They are still on Bluesky, but they are not active anymore.
Their last post if from 14 days ago, not sure how often they usually post tho
They post most days on X: https://xcancel.com/ProtonPrivacy
every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it’s valve’s linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.
The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz…
Looks like I’m leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail
Learn your lesson and switch to a custom domain :) that way you will never have to change all your services’ email addresses anymore, when you want to switch mail provider.
Yeah, this is gonna be my next move I think. I was using Proton VPN for a while and just recently started migrating my emails there, then they started doing all of this.
I wanted to self host my email anyway, but now I have no excuse. I’ve been burned by the last team I expected it to come from, I’ll be self-reliant now
How costly is a domain? Also how does one set it up, do you need a DNS server?
Most (if not all) domain providers also host DNS for you. After you buy your domain, you’ll need to go to the DNS settings and put some records given by your email provider (records are just made of a “type” such as A, MX, CNAME, TXT, a “domain” and the “content”).
A .com domain usually costs between 10 and 20 dollars per year. I think it’s worth it! There are many domain registrar you can choose from.
I personally like Porkbun, it’s cheap and it works great. In the past I used to like the French service Gandi, but it’s been recently acquired by a VC and now it’s gone to the pooper.
SAME! I only just finished getting all my servers and custom domain set up, and I already have to look for a new provider.
If someone has any recommendations for a good hosted email, VPN and online storage provider let us know. It seems there’s not many good options left.
Me too. Same predicament. I was a paid user of Proton.
Just got moved over to paid Tuta, and it seemed to go smoothly.
I’m so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad…It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.
Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.
Yet another reason to not like Proton.
What ashame, I thought the CEO should be poked in the eye with a blunt stick for his Trump support but I would’ve kept with Proton if the business and his personal views were kept seperate
It appears this is no longer the case, at least proton provides a lot of decent services I don’t mind abusing for free now.
It’s as if with each passing day, Proton wakes up and chooses to wear a slightly different red flag for a cape than the one they wore yesterday. I’m obviously being hyperbolic here, but I’m also a bit upset with myself for having decided to get an annual subscription with them last November.
I’ve heard good things about Mullvad for VPN and Tuta for mail. I’ve got my own domain that I can start using with whatever mail host I land on.
I’m in the U.S. What other mail providers are people using, and what other VPN providers should I be considering?
If you ever want to torrent, some service that allows port forwarding, like AirVPN or PureVPN. A popular alternative of mullvad does not allow this.
You keep posting this and I haven’t been using port forwarding at all but torrents keep coming through. What am I missing here? Serious question, because I do not know what I’m either doing wrong or missing out on with port forwarding and I have not been experiencing what I would call a degraded experience as far as I can tell, but there’s a whole world of things that I’m entirely ignorant to.
A connection has to be established. That is only possible if one side has an open port.
So you can basically not connect to other people with closed ports, which reduces your available pool of people to connect to.
As long as there are enough people with open ports for you, you and the torrent ecosystem will be fine. But when nobody or very few people have open ports, torrenting simply doesn’t work.
Thanks, this is a little difficult to parse while I’m looking at my seeds uploading at ratios well over 1.00 but just the same I’m running a new VPN tunnel with port forwarding enabled to see what difference it makes.
Plex works for the people I share with outside my network. No port forwarding. I just don’t get what I am not getting, and every explainer I get is basically what you posted (no offense) and it doesn’t match what my experience is showing me.
Here is it illustrated by multiple examples:
- Situation: You are the only one seeding a torrent, with ports closed
- Another person with ports closed wants to get the torrent. They will never be able to get it since you two can’t establish a connection.
- Another person with an open port wants to get the torrent. Eventually, after some delay, your client connects to the tracker and gets a list of people who want to get the torrent (leechers). You get the IP and port of the person who wants to get the torrent, you connect to them, you start uploading to them.
- Situation: You are the only one seeding a torrent, but have ports open
- No matter if a leecher has ports closed or open, they get your IP+Port from the tracker, connect to you, and you upload to them
The situation with more clients is more nuanced, but essentially the same:
- Situation: There are 5 seeders with open ports seeding a torrent
- Everything works perfectly all the time
- Situation: There are 5 seeders with closed ports seeding a torrent
- For a leecher with open port, everything works perfectly
- For a leecher with closed port, they will never get the torrent ever
- Situation: There are 5 seeders seeding a torrent. 4 have their ports closed, 1 has it open.
- 10 leechers with ports closed want to get the torrent. The only one that can upload to them is the 1 seeder with port open, the other 4 seeders are useless.
- 10 leechers with ports open want to get the torrent. All 5 seeders seed their torrent equally and everything works perfectly.
- 5 leechers with ports closed and 5 leechers with ports open want to get the torrent.
- The 5 leechers with ports closed are only serviced by the 1 seeder with port open
- The 5 leechers with port open get the torrent from all 5 seeders.
- The 1 seeder with open port seeds to every leecher, the protocol doesn’t discriminate. So in a perfectly equal world, the 1 seeder with port open seeds to all 10 leechers, so each leecher gets 1/10th of their upload speed.
- The 4 seeders with closed port only seed to the 5 leechers with open port, giving each of them 1/5th of their upload speed.
- This means that, if you add this all up, the 5 leechers with closed ports get 1/10th (1 seeder times 1/10th) of one seeders’ full upload speed, while the leechers with open ports get 9/10ths (1 seeder times 1/10th and 4 seeders times 2/10ths) of one seeders’ full upload speed.
as you can see, the people with open ports have a massive speed advantage in this example, literally getting 9 times the upload speed available in the network. But essentially, torrenting still works as long as some people have open ports, just everyone with closed ports is at a severe disadvantage.
Now there are a couple more issues with closed ports (like DHT/pex not working) but they all boil down to the same problem: the ones with closed ports can only get stuff from people with open ports. Thus they are at a massive disadvantage and get reduced speeds or in contrived situations with few seeders even nothing.
- Situation: You are the only one seeding a torrent, with ports closed
If you’re looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing
.comof your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting.emlfiles, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.
I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?
I use KeePassX. there are android, linux and macos clients. i sync them between devices securely using Mega
Vaultwarden is the opensourced version of Bitwarden. One of the employees of Bitwarden is allowed to maintain it in their own time
keepass plus syncthing works well for me. I sync between linux, android, windows.
