• socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Writing as a fan of the americano, I think we should just call it what it is. After all, what’s more american than taking something good and watering it down?

    Alternatively we could call it the italiano since that’s where it originated. Or “café à l’eau” perhaps, what’s more Canadian than randomly adding french. Calling it “canadiano” feels too “freedom fries” to me.

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      2 months ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffè_americano#Origin

      That said, why not Canadiano. Sometimes you want more and a litttle hydration in there. It’s hard to sip an espresso for more than a couple of minutes.

      Agree it feels kind of “freedom fries”-ey but remember that freedom fries were a US republiQan idiocy in a pathetic attempt to mock the French for being too smart to get balls-deep in the Iraq II war. No one but complete koolaid-drinking Qanuts say ‘freedom fries’ now because (a) the French were correct anyway and (b) fries are Belgian.

      In that sense, this is probably better and has a chance of sticking.

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        2 months ago

        It’s not the same situation as freedom fries at all, but it has the same sort of cringe feel to me. Just like french fries, the americano isn’t really american. We’re not ‘sticking it’ to anyone here, so it rubs me the wrong way a little. I hardly have a strong opinion on it though.

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    2 months ago

    I mean an Americano is just watered down espresso and AFAIK was coined to make fun of the Americans.

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      Seems to be right. Not that the making fun of was accurate, but if you have a bunch of toxic men who think espresso puts hair on your chest, seeing folks drink drip coffee is probably embarrassing even though it’s objectively got more caffeine and a completely distinct flavor.

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        I don’t know if it was so much “Make fun of” as the sentiment was “They can’t handle it” similar to how certain cultures eat relatively spicy food tease those who can’t handle it. I don’t have direct evidence for that part, and my source was a friend of mine who was a foreign exchange student from France who explained it to me as such.

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          Right that’s the toxic masculinity/hair on your chest aspect. Espresso is in general easier on your stomach than drip and it’s certainly easier to drink (worst case it’s a shot). So even though the driver was toxic masculinity, as per usual that toxicity wasn’t even valid.

          Ironically in the middle of being toxic the Europeans invented something called an Americano that Americans don’t drink, doesnt have the rich flavors of what it’s making fun of, has less caffeine than what it’s making fun of, and is actually harder to drink (because of the shit flavor) than the thing it waters down. It’s a massive dumb backfire driven by toxic masculinity from the romance states.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It should be left Americano. It’s called that because Americans couldn’t handle the stronger coffee or espresso and wanted it watered down. Weak. “Americano” is kinda insulting by itself. But whatever works for you.

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      2 months ago

      This one is ironic because the macho-mindset of needing to be STRONG and therefor only consuming hard stuff is realy American interpretation of manhood in itself.

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    2 months ago

    while I support Canada boycotting the US, you have to admit this in particular is “freedom fries” tier patriotism. it was embarrassing then, and it is embarrassing now.

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    2 months ago

    Freedomlandian here, keep it up. I’m so fucking ashamed of my country. If someone gets butthurt about petty stuff like this, good.

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    2 months ago

    It’s funny and the Americans being salty about this one, when their country is becoming more and more fascist every day, are even funnier. Get mad about real important things, not this 😂

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      2 months ago

      Those Americans need to look in a mirror first, with their “freedom fries”, because France decided not to back them in their needless war in Iraq.

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        2 months ago

        The last bit of this song always comes back to me whenever I hear that phrase…

        Freedom fries and burns and scars Liberator goes too far Freedom fries and screams and yells The promised land is a promised hell — Robert Plant from the album Mighty Rearranger