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    According to muslims. christians reject the muslims: not related except taking a few names. jews reject both as only taking the name of their god.

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      What do you mean with the word “reject” in this context? I mean they’re all Abrahamic religions and share that foundation. But they all disagree on who is the last prophet. Islam would even acknowledge Jesus. He’s just not the most important prophet. And we christians have all the old Jewish stories in the Old Testament and we study them and deem everything to be true. What the Israelites and all the other tribes did in the Iron Age and how it all came to be. And our messiah was a Jew. So there is a strong bond between those religions. But I’m not very well educated on the Jewish perspective on this renewal and spin-off of their religion.

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        Jews believe the truth of their faith ends with them. Christians believe the truth of their faith ends with them. Islam believes they have the final truth.

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          But is that rejection, or what are the consequences? I mean even every denomination of christianity thinks all the other ones are wrong. All the holy books are in itself full of contradictions, so people interpret them and deem every scholar of their own faith wrong, once it opposes their own take on it… So I’m not sure if they even think like that. I mean in practice it turns out that way. Everyone forms tribes and they’re the only ones blessed with the truth. But I think that’s way smaller groups, and kind of the other way round. Because religion is to a large degree about tribalism and not intellectual arguments. Though they have that, too. But it’s slapped on top. Maybe I’ve answered my question with that… 😆

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            The other denominations think the other ones are mistaken in most cases. Some like LDS are seen as “wrong” though I would argue they should be seen as a new Abrahamic branch.

            Judaism sees no truth in Christianity or Islam. Christianity sees the Jewish faith as outdated in the light if the teachings of Jesus. Islam thinks both Jews and Christians have a misunderstanding of the truth God gave them.

            This really isn’t about tribalism. It’s about what you must accept to justify your belief. If a Christian believes any of the core principles of Islam they kind of can’t be Christian because the truth was supposed to be that Christ was the final messenger. If there is another prophet that undoes Jesus’ supremacy.