This is what happens when you don’t use crypto as god intended: purchasing medication from India and subscriptions to indexers.
Purchase Bitcoin right before purchase. Watch the spare change left over go up and down and imagine all the millions you could be winning or losing.
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A thousand upvotes? Is this reddit?
What’s the exchange rate of Reddit karma to Lemmy nothings?
Reddit karma uses a logarithmic function to determine the karma on a post. The first upvotes give 1 karma each, but the higher the number gets the less karma you get from additional upvotes.
This isn’t even some theory based on observations, the reddit algorithm used to be completely open source so you can see how it works on github (or at least how it used to work 7 years ago).
Front page reddit posts with 50k points most likely have over a million upvotes in reality
Crazy that this is how I found out about this. I guess that’s what I get for not being enough of a repost bot 😔
1,763.64:1
From 97 million active users from reddit vs 55k users from Lemmy.
Well, at least you won’t find bots farming karma
yet
Ah yes the price is returning to where it was 4 months ago just like the stock market. So people who have been buying at the peak for the past 4 months might have lost some money. Otherwise it’s still up like 10000000% historically.
Nobody cares except the anti-crypto ideologues with their misinformed memes.
No, man. People are sounding like these prices are fixed, when we’ve seen time and time again that crypto prices are cyclical.
Now’s a time to buy. ETH is at a 50% discount. Your assets would be in a pretty good spot right now if you’d bought Bitcoin in 2017 when it “crashed” to $4000 per unit. I picked up shares of EZBC at an average of $32 a share (currently hovering between $45-$50 in a supposed crash) and XRP at 50 to 75 cents, currently hovering around $2.10.
What you do is invest, and then just forget about it and let those assets sit. Investing is about forward-thinking.
We’ve seen time and time again that not all crypto prices are cyclical. Ethereum has been performing poorly relative to BTC. If you’re just going to forget about it, then you should avoid proof of stake! When you log back in you’ll see that everyone who staked was sitting on a musical chair and you’re not.
Plus, it’s run by a central foundation that bailed itself out when the DAO flopped. Requires attention at best.
They are as cyclical as people are cyclical for falling for confidence scams again and again and again … You can consider something based on how good an investment it is, or based on how ethical it is. Very seldom will both work out. People, don’t cry about the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer, assholes behaving more like assholes, and inflation skyrocketing when you normalize and even crowdsource this sort of relationship with your economy. Don’t be surprised when the society that surrounds you is so burnout all you have to spend your money on is shit.
They are as cyclical as people are cyclical for falling for confidence scams again and again and again
No. They are cyclical because of the way that crypto algorithms work, and the effects they have on the media and human greed.
how ethical it is.
This conversation isn’t about ethics. It’s about the silliness of the meme, but thank you. You are correct in saying that each individual investor needs to consider these issues as well.
It feels tacky to point this out, but that is just vaginas. The open wallet? What are we doing.
Brother, really? Have you even seen one before? 🤔
They’re obviously made of polygons.
Lara Croft agrees
He must be down bad, have a little heart.
I think I saw this meme for the first time in 2017
gotta hodl your memes
What’s funny is that, in 2017, the ETH high was something like $12. (It got up to $1300 in 2018)
Now, it’s sitting at $2000 and it’s a “crash”.
The lesson here is to buy the dip and then check back in 5-10 years.
What is an “Ethereum”? Some sort of subscription?
It’s a pretty old cryptocoin: initally released back in 2015, and a significant change deployed in 2022. It was then when they changed from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake, which basically means that they don’t use mining anymore to keep the network running. They use like 1% of energy compared to PoW coins.
Also they have some smart contract capabilities which I suppose Ethereum people think are important. But I’ve never seen any practical use for that stuff.
Still, I think Eth is one of the cryptos that actually tries to be useful and efficient in some way and not just a stupid pump and dump scheme. Turns out, nobody gives a fuck about that, perhaps?
Haha yeah I made this comment mostly to see if I could meme some anger out of someone. Got some nice explanations though.
oh whoops
Not like it was obvious lol
It’s a decentralized network running a virtual machine with its own token to pay for usage.
A cryptocurrency that recently lost a lot of its value
I can’t wait for people to realize they’re all in a pyramid scheme together. I’m sick of hearing bros saying crypto should be part of my portfolio.
It never had any value, like all other crypto currencies. But it was used to fake value and dupe people out of their money.
Value isn’t necessarily something tangible. It’s what other people think it’s worth. The USD doesn’t have any more value than the belief people put in it. Do you also think it has no value?
I’m not defending crypto speculation, but it’s ignorant to say it doesn’t have value if you can buy things with it. Basically all modern money is based on faith, including crypto. Even when it’s based on gold or silver, that’s aren’t actually useful for most people so it’s still made up value worth however much people value that.
Basically all modern money is based on faith, including crypto.
Ok, sure, however, fiat currencies are based on the faith that there’s at least one entire nation that you can use your currency in, and is motivated to ensure their currency is worth something, and has some semblance of stability. Crypto is based on the faith that there’s other dumbasses out there that will agree with you that these particular bits hold value for some reason.
Crypto is based on the faith that there’s other dumbasses out there that will agree with you
And that’s the most beautiful thing about crypto that got lost in all the speculation, shitcoin, scams, and nft bullshit. A currency of the people for the people, but of course, when the pigs came into power they were the same as the old farmers.
It was always a scam. When people were saying these things, that was part of the scam.
There are good uses for the blockchain, just not really with currency.
Keep telling yourself that crypto is a scam with no value, etc… While you loyally and unquestionably use your green paper money covered in pictures of slave masters.
Eh, it’s also the thing that makes it so vulnerable to speculation, shitcoin, scams, and nft bullshit
Sure. I’m not disagreeing with that, just that it doesn’t have value. It does. Just because it’s made up doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value, as long as someone is willing to buy it from you.
I don’t like these uses of crypto either. It’s just a really stupid argument to say it doesn’t have value. There are plenty of valid arguments that can be made against it without making something up like that.
I’m sorry, but at this point I honestly have more faith in the latter than the former. I just don’t have any faith in America at all.
Ok I’m talking about fiat currency as a concept though, not the USD specifically.
If your point is that fiat currencies are still vulnerable to some instability, then sure, I guess I agree, but fiat currencies are still orders of magnitude more stable than cryptocurrencies.
If a state converted from paper money to crypto, the only discernible differences would be like more computers, more transparency, less middlemen, etc. Crypto is literally just a new (distributed, open) form of accounting.
The usd has value created by virtue of being backed by the usa government. It is not just faith based.
With the current administration, I’d argue we are definitely in “faith based” money right now.
It was originally based on a gold reserve and then taken off to become a fiat currency. Trump is talking about potentially not paying back debts owned to other governments. Definitely sounds faith based to me, there’s nothing hard backing it.
True, but that isn’t contradictory. The point is value of both of these forms of currency are made up and imaginary. They’re valuable as long as someone is willing to purchase it.
The same is true for gold. People think it has intrinsic value, which is why it’s so easy to scam people with. The value is almost entirely based on people thinking it’s valuable though.
I don’t like crypto-currencies. It “not having value” isn’t the correct argument to use against it though. It’s a pretty stupid one. There are plenty of good arguments that should be used instead.
The USA government? With the tariffs? And the orange buffoon in charge? If we’re counting that, then we might as well count his “crypto reserve” as backing too.
Or it could be backed by math and economics alone.
I don’t think it’s worth the discussion, but comparing a fiat currency like the US dollar with crypto currency is a false equivalence argument. They aren’t even comparable.
You just compared them by calling them both currencies.
I didn’t say they’re equivalent. I said both of them have value that is imaginary. Crypto currencies have value if you can purchase things with them. It just makes you sound dumb to say it doesn’t have value. That’s not the correct argument to make against it.
Yo, don’t be bad-mouthing our soon-to-be currency. Scams and money laundering were never this easy.
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God damn! Have a little sensitivity lol
Ha ha!