• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    What in the world makes you think a sovereign nation (UK) has to ask permission from the US to use their military arsenal?! We might have agreements in place, but no way in hell does the US control the UK’s nuclear launch capability.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      They did have to ask the USA for permission about giving permission to Ukraine using their Storm Shadows, because the guidance system is from the USA IIRC.

      So not a totally crazy thought IMO.

    • NotLemming@lemm.ee
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      4 hours ago

      I’m not expert, just remembered reading something to that effect. The other commenter seems to know more.

    • HelloThere@sh.itjust.works
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      13 hours ago

      It’s not as straight forward as asking permission, but you should read about Trident as a missle platform.

      To say the UK has a genuinely independent nuclear deterent is not as clear cut as you’d think. But that’s not the same as being absolutely beholden to the US.

      That all said, we really do need to swap to the french missle system, but that will take time to retro fit the subs.

      • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
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        12 hours ago

        The UK outsourced maintenance of the delivery mechanism (the missile body) to the US.

        The warhead is built & maintained by the UK.

        The missiles have a life span so eventually they will stop working without US help.

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            9 hours ago

            5-7 years iirc according to the article I read. After that failure rates start going up, not sure how long the curve from 0-100% is though.

            Bottom line the UK (and the rest of the EU) need to start getting missile factories stood up. Not just for trident but for all the other arms we get off the US.