• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Are you trying to claim there’s something “special” about this CPU like the PS3’s cell processor?

    There is. It’s a 16-core desktop CPU kinda like Ryzen, but hooked up to an IO die with very fast (8533MHz) quad channel memory. It’s more like a small, power efficient threadripper CPU, if you want to look at it that way, and that is a $2K+ platform.

    But that IO die has a 40 CU GPU (compared to 12 CUs for the previous highest end IGP, or 8 for the Steam Deck), so yeah, somewhere in the ballpark of a 4070, or (to be more accurate than my previous guess) the 4060 at the lower end of SKUs.

    But the real appeal isn’t “magic”: its like an Apple M Pro or Mac, a decent GPU hooked up to a huge pool of reasonably fast VRAM without having to pay freaking $4000+ for a Quadro or A100. Workstation people are going crazy over this thing.

    I’d buy it at the drop of a hat for workstation stuff. I also have some friends who want one as a home server, since it’s so powerful but power efficient, and more modular/repairable than some Chinese mini PC.

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      10 hours ago

      For $2000, you and your friends could be getting better hardware.

      I’m sorry, this is a product for suckers. Anyone who buys this has more money than sense. It’s just a fact of life.

      It’s okay if you don’t realize this now, but hopefully one day you will. It’s alright to be wrong and taken for a ride. We’ve all been there, including me. It’s part of why I’m so keen on identifying bullshit like this now; I’ve seen it before and will continue to see it again.

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        10 hours ago

        I’m sorry, this is a product for suckers. Anyone who buys this has more money than sense. It’s just a fact of life.

        There’s literally no better hardware. If I want 48Gb+ vram for $2000, it’s literally a bank of ancient, power sucking Tesla P40s or this… there’s nothing else because Nvidia/AMD price gouge everything else. Heck, the used 24GB 3090 I bought has skyrocketed in price. I’d still be paying l$1500+ for a bare minimum 3090 system now.

        I’d love to be wrong, but the GPU market is totally fucked.

        GPU aside, it’s the same for those that want a really fast transcoder box or whatever.

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          10 hours ago

          You’re deluding yourself into thinking this iGPU is more powerful than it actually is.

          Have you seen benchmarks comparing it to some of the competition?

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            10 hours ago

            Honestly I don’t even care if it’s half as fast as a 4070, that’s fast enough for me.

            In workstation workloads, some stuff just will not run unless you have a ton of VRAM, and running slower is fine. Or in other cases, you get a gigantic speedup from the virtue of simply having tons of VRAM. That’s the value, not pure core speed compared to some 8GB GPU.

            But I am not deluding myself, the core performance is in the ballpark of a laptop 7700S: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-8060S-Benchmarks-and-Specs.942049.0.html

            It’s also (on paper) slower than my desktop 3090, but in practice, an order of magnitude faster for stuff that struggles to fit on the 3090.

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              Honestly I don’t even care if it’s half as fast as a 4070, that’s fast enough for me.

              You’re the one who’s trying to argue its power, and then when presented with a better option you say “it’s fast enough for me.”

              Have you seen benchmarks comparing the performance of this iGPU to dGPUs?

              Please share.

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                  4 hours ago

                  What benchmarks are you seeing that are telling you this is a better deal than the alternatives?

                  Come on, you can be specific so I don’t have to assume what you’re talking about.