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  • Exaclty. They have a dumbarse first past the post system where you either vote for a shit party or throw your vote away. So people throw their vote away if they are disillusioned with the shit two party system.

    We have an S tier electoral system where you can rank your preferences and make politicians aware that people are voting for particular issues and still make sure your vote goes to the least bad major. We don’t want the sort of ignorance they have in the US where nobody gives a shit then they act all surprised. Fuck that. As major parties go the ALP is ok. They won’t be my first choice but I am not leaving a vote that impacts my family to a bunch of News Corp readers.




  • Immigration has always been driven by the demands of the business community, not by bleeding heart lefties. We have low unemployment which puts pressure on wages and it is hard to find in demand skills. And we have construction and real estate speculation that is dependent on strong population growth to maintain profits.

    When labour were truly a left wing workers party they backed the White Australia policy to protect the hard won rights of Australian workers which could be undermined by exploitation of immigrant labour. That turned out to be ignorant and wrong headed as immigrant labour aspires to the same conditions and revitalizes unions.

    In every horticultural areas of Australia there are mini-busses of islander labour everywhere flown into the country by government programs to undercut Australian workers, but those guys aren’t immigrants. There used to be another word for it in the old days that I can’t use it now to call it out or I will cop a lot of shit about it.

    Racists (cross-politics) want the immigrant intake to be in their own image but they aren’t opposed to population growth. Environmentalists and sustainability types (generally center left) want lower immigration to put less demand on the environment and infrastructure.

    I don’t think average people care about gender identity either way. Nothing more Aussie than live and let live. They care about their wages, mortgages and paying their bills. Culture wars is manipulative bullshit to try and trick people to vote against their self interest and unfortunately it works.


  • No. They are center. They were way ahead of the coalition on market friendly economic reforms, floating the dollar, abandoning many tarriffs, reducing subsidies, privatizing the comm bank etc. It wasn’t until Howard that the coalition started to catch up and Labor still take a very responsible and balanced approach to economic management.

    To be fair radical left wing politics has not been competitive in the world and wouldn’t be competitive politically here. They can’t maintain the economic productivity needed to deliver wealth and quality of life improvements demanded by working people so they always end up in autocracy or revolution. That is why social democracy thrived and why China has a successful mixed system. The problem is maintaining the balance between social policy and capitalist wealth creation. The social policy side is constantly undermined by the ultra rich, lobby groups and the flip flop election cycle and people start to take things like minimum wages, public healthcare and education for granted.

    Now, if your conceptualization of right vs left isn’t the traditional capital vs labour but the weird US culture war bullshit then the ALP are pretty much dead center as well (their right faction strongly overlaps with the coalition). It is a fairly laid back and generous country for the most part and most regular people don’t want to be like the yanks and be polarised into us vs them hate politics.



  • The difference is the lack of diversification in Australia’s economy which gives certain industries massive influence over policy that doesn’t always serve Australian citizens or our broader national interests. The LNP has no intention of building nuclear power. They are pushing the interests of the fossil fuel lobby and prolonging the life of stranded fossil fuel investments. If we could do it economically they would find a way to make it uneconomic to keep the coal fires burning.

    Australia has extremely high costs, small population (scaling issues - 30m in an area the size of continental USA) and lack of expertise. If built with Australian labour and to our high safety and environmental standards nuclear would be very costly and delayed. There would be massive costs to taxpayers and energy consumers which would not sit well with coalition voters and supporters. That money could have been put into cheaper alternatives that could be delivered faster and provide consumers and business with savings. Many coalition voters already benefit from cheap solar rooftop PV and are aware of the cost benefits of renewables and possibly even have investments in them which the coalition will put at risk. All they are doing is screwing over their own voters, increasing investment risk and increasing costs for business to gain favour with a powerful lobby.

    The only good reason for us to have a civilian nuclear industry would be to help develop a nuclear deterrent but we are signed up to non-proliferation and our major allies don’t want us to have an independent capability as it lessens their influence The coalition certainly have no interest in that direction.