Still, what the fuck is kia/hyundai doing trying to penny pinch on that, it cost them a lot of reputation, meanwhile in Europe they are some of the best value cars and are reliable

The Id3 and more specifically the Cupra Born are off my list because of the stupid steering wheel buttons, they are soo fucking bad.

I will probably go with a used electric Niro, saw a video complaining about how it has 73 buttons, I am like, awesome.

Which is like, the rest of the world

I think you mean Civil War (2024).

Well, every person is entitled to their opinion, even if they are wrong like you.