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  • If the NSA really does have such formal and strict rules

    Are you serious? Such formal and strict rules that you can’t talk about your genitals in a work-provided medium without fear of retribution? You’re gonna be shocked when it’s revealed they had to wear business casual and had to comb their hair as well.

    I work in a very left leaning org and if I mentioned something as mundane as having pubic hair in our chat I’d be fired immediately.

    What about a chat where a group of men discuss the pros/cons of a vasectomy?

    Lol, yeah that would absolutely not be something I talked about with coworkers at work. Ever.

    It’s obvious that at the NSA, this kind of discussion was just acceptable.

    Why is it obvious? Why would the NSA of all places have literally the most liberal code of conduct of any office in the history of civilization? There is no office environment on the planet where talking about your genitals, your “penetration enthusiasm” or the intensity of ass-hair laser sessions will be acceptable.

    Am…am I taking the bait or something? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, and that maybe I’m just feeding a troll?


  • Lol, right; the NSA set up a chat for people to talk about sex. That’s what they meant - not “Let’s have a chat for people to ask about how to address their trans coworkers, other questions of etiquette, and generally make a spot that is welcoming and supportive”. They, the NSA, wanted their workers to have a safe space to talk about sex.

    I don’t talk about fucking my partner with my colleagues over work-provided (let alone government-provided) chat channels; it’s not a question of the number of partners or what gender those partners might be, but the fact that if you talk about having sex at work you’re probably going to have repercussions.

    Just to address a few pieces of your response:

    1. “Again, are they firing everyone who ever texted about a weekend hookup?”

    I don’t know, are they not? The article you linked doesn’t include a lot of quotes. Is there a difference in the language used between the two?

    1. “Please. People talk about their sex lives all the time, even at work.”

    Sure they do, but they don’t type it into chat on a server they don’t control. That would possibly be the dumbest thing I can imagine someone doing. Fantastic amounts of dumb.

    1. “…you are completely willing to accept their framing that certain sexualities are inherently deviant and shameful.”

    Not anymore than my own - I’m not trying to preach about anybody’s morality, I’m probably more “deviant” than most in those chats, but I sure as fuck don’t talk about it at work; if I did I wouldn’t be putting it in the record.

    1. “On cis het guy brags to another about the time they hooked up with two chicks in one weekend? That’s just a player. A queer person has multiple partners and chooses a poor word to describe it? Suddenly it’s worth firing every trans person in the agency.”

    Who said they were queer? Straight people can have gangbangs. Maybe an ally who had a fantastic weekend brought everyone down. Still a stupid thing to type in.

    If you don’t think there are limits to what can be talked about in the workplace, regardless of the medium, well I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t know anyone in meatspace that would be surprised when someone who talked about sex in a public sector job got fired. In the end the current admin were going to do it anyways, but they got a solid reason gift-wrapped because folks were being dumb about a work chat.