• n2burns@lemmy.ca
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    16 hours ago

    Might be too nitpicky but the article says

    Liberal Leader Mark Carney was re-elected in his Ottawa riding

    which seems like such a huge error.

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      14 hours ago

      Obviously not re-elected. However, he was the Prime Minister before and still is. That is clearly what they are trying to say.

  • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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    20 hours ago

    The ndp must force the liberals to enact a citizen’s assembly on electoral reform for the first condition of a supply and confidence agreement.

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      The NDP cannot force anything. They are not even an official party.

      Even if the NDP and Conservatives Team up, they cannot force non-confidence without support from the Bloc.

      The liberals and the Bloc are the two parties with power right now. What the liberals have to do is act like the liberals in Quebec are pseudo Bloc MPs. That will keep the Bloc on their side and effectively allow them to act like they have a majority otherwise.

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      18 hours ago

      Hah! The NDP threatening the stability of the government again will end them. There is no appetite right now for playing games. The NDP already looks like the party of failed and dangerous opportunists after they tried to hand thr government to the Conservatives as Trump mocked us.

      • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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        No, that’s just the nature of supply and confidence agreements where they break up slightly earlier than 4 years because the parties have to distinguish themselves before campaigning, you can thank the obsolete first-past-the-post for that. Also the Liberal-NDP supply and confidence lasted for 3 years, that’s pretty stable and we got lots of progressive policy because of it.

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          Seems pretty clear that we are heading into an alliance between the Liberals and the Bloc. They align pretty well on issues outside of Quebec.

          If the Liberals allow their Quebec ridings to support Quebec issues that the Bloc cares about, the Bloc will probably continue to support the Liberals more generally.

          Unless the Bloc joins a non-confidence against the Liberals, the Liberals can effectively govern as if they had a majority.

          And it will take 3 parties to gang up on the libs to force non-confidence. That means BOTH the NDP and the Bloc joining with the Conservatives. How likely does that seem? Even the Conservatives and Bloc together do not have the votes. The NDP sure doesn’t.

          As of now, the Liberals only need 3 votes from outside the party on any given issue. On most issues, they should have little trouble overcoming the Conservative opposition.

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          And there will be no appetite for anything that looks like the NDP doing anything but nodding along for the next few years.

          It doesn’t matter what the nature of politics is. The public doesn’t care.

          The public will punish the NDP even further if it threatens the govenment, then the CPC will win. If they want to hurt the country right now for the sake of an agenda they haven’t run on in years, it will be the end of the party for a generation.

          Edit: I’m genuinely shocked y’all silently and passive-aggressively think the NDP has any kind of mandate to take down the government over anything, let alone a policy they’ve all but abandoned years ago.

          Y’all would rather the Cons rule than accept that nobody ran on electoral reform. Ridiculous.