• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    I dunno. Sometimes I get the feeling they’d secede and join us if we asked. Hawaii too, if PR or Samoa came first.

    I mean, Alaska had a Basic Income scheme. It’s surprisingly progressive given our own impression of our own snowy North.

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      7 days ago

      Many natives of Hawaii consider their kingdom to be illegally occupied by the USA, and I don’t suppose they would be especially happy about trading the USA for a new colonialist occupier. The Kingdom of Hawaii was a marvel of the world and deserves to exist again.

      hat tip to Silver Spook

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        6 days ago

        Queen Liliuokalani deserves to have her name heard. And the US and the Dole Corporation both owe Hawaiians their sovereignty back.

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          When the great and powerful democracy of the United States of God or whatever the fuck your despot wants the world to call it this week cannot even match the quality of life previously provided by a small tribal kingdom, Americans forfeit the right to an opinion on the matter.

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            Great .

            What if the current king dies?

            Also, what is “good” here? Can I insult the king? Can I criticize the king? Can I object to decisions from the king? Do I have the freedom to protest?

            That’s the thing about democracies, if done right they can always have good leadership.

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      I think Canada’s gun control laws would be one of the biggest factors preventing Alaska joining. Many people depend on their guns there for hunting, defense against wildlife for themselves or their animals, and for self defense. Many people live remotely where police response times may not be fast enough to respond to a violent situation.

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        We have guns in Canada. I went hunting with my dad, there is a certain distance from the city you need to be for firing a gun. Those in more remote areas of Canada have guns for all the things you stated. My neighbour in our city, has about 8 guns; hand guns, long guns. People think Canada doesn’t have guns because we don’t flaunt them as our lifestyle.

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        7 days ago

        As though Canada doesn’t have anything as remote as Alaska… People living in Labrador or Churchill have exactly the same needs.

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          7 days ago

          And many of those people hate Canada’s gun laws. The guy i work with from kapuskasing would gladly have Canada become the 51st state if it meant he could have more guns.

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            So? It demonstrates that, contrary to your assertion that people depend on American gun laws, it is perfectly possible to exist in these situations with Canada’s gun laws. I get that people have an emotional dependency on guns, but that’s not an actual necessity.

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              7 days ago

              All I claimed was that alaskans would have a hard time giving up their guns to join Canada. I never claimed it was impossible to live rurally without a gun.

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                  6 days ago

                  Canada had significantly different gun laws and most of their current guns or accessories may be illegal depending on magazine capacity, barrel length, or specific model.

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                    Fair, but that’s an easy fix. Like a shotgun holds 5 shells but in Canada you can only have 3 in it, so you load a plug. Change your magazine. Etc. Doesn’t mean you give up everything, and on the flip side you get healthcare