• TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Americans are children who get abused by both parents but they think Mom is better because she hits them less.

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      It will vote for the lesser evil or else it gets the hose again. It does this whenever it is told. It puts the ballot in the fucking basket!

    • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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      3 days ago

      You can thank the spoiler effect from first-past-the-post for that. I will take 5 lashes with incremental improvements instead of just 20 lashes.

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        Great. See us in 8 years when you’re supporting a dem who wants 8 active genocides above a repub who wants 10 active genocides. This is what your weird version of liberal “pragmatic” utilitarianism will get you.

        I’ll leave you with some Mike Davis:

        In biology, one learns about a certain species of caterpillar that can only cross the threshold of metamorphosis by seeing its future butterfly. Proletarian subjectivity does not evolve by incremental steps but requires nonlinear leaps, especially by way of moral self-recognition through solidarity with the struggle of a distant people. Even when this contradicts short-term self-interest, as in the famous cases of Lancashire cotton workers’ enthusiasm for Lincoln and later for Gandhi, such efforts not only anticipate a world beyond capitalism, they concretely advance the working class’s march toward it.

        Socialism, in other words, requires nonutilitarian actors, whose ultimate motivations and values arise from structures of feeling that others would deem spiritual. Marx rightly scourged romantic humanism in the abstract, but his personal pantheon — Prometheus and Spartacus, Homer, Cervantes, and Shakespeare — affirmed a heroic vision of human possibility.

        • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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          3 days ago

          Nice strawman. Americans wouldn’t have to choose one of two subpar options if they actually had proportional representation. That way the people can avoid the aipac politicians completely without throwing away their vote.

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            A strawman, you say? How unfair of me. Let me confirm with you first.

            If, in 8 years (assuming your grand plans for ranked choice or whatever have yet to take hold), the choice is between a democrat who wants 8 genocides and a republican who wants 10, which would you vote for?