Donald Trump, at his first cabinet meeting, said he believed the US is negotiating “very successfully” with Russia and Ukraine.

The US president suggested that a ceasefire deal is close. “We’re going to make a deal with Russia and Ukraine to stop killing people,” he told reporters.

Asked if he is willing to make security guarantees as part of the deal, Trump replied:

I’m not going to make security guarantees beyond very much … We’re going to have Europe do that, because Europe is the next door neighbour.

He added that the US will be partnering with Ukraine “in terms of rare earth.” “We very much need rare earth, they have great rare earth,” Trump said.

Trump said it was “great deal for Ukraine too, because they get us over there, we are going to be working over there”.

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    What a lovely duo. About what I was expecting considering the podcast’s name.

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      Russia has been doing the things people Hate America for, longer than America has existed. the only reason people turn a blind eye to it is because they are used to thinking of Russia as this huge country with all this territory. And not as a Country that wages war all over the corners of the world because they dont have force projection

      there are hundreds of millions of people in the world who feel the same way about Russia as contemporary people feel about America since the end of WW2… Except they exist along Russias borders and not scattered across the planet like Central America, Iraq, Libya and Vietnam.

      Russia murdered, raped, pillaged, and genocided its way into where it is, Russia is a prison of nations.

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        Sorry that I think Ukrainian genocide is bad. I know that’s a radical opinion on the performative left.

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          Sorry that I think Ukrainian genocide is bad.

          Obviously Russia’s Genocide of Ukraine is bad. That’s not up for debate.

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            Obviously Russia’s Genocide of Ukraine is bad. That’s not up for debate.

            Until the question of doing anything about it comes up, in which case it very quickly turns to “Well, suddenly I’m a fiscal conservative” or “Russia has Legitimate Security Interests 🥺”

            “Genocide bad, but we can’t actually do anything that might fight it!”

            Isn’t that the exact position you criticized mainstream Dems for, just on Palestine?

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              Until the question of doing anything about it comes up, in which case it very quickly turns to “Well, suddenly I’m a fiscal conservative” or “Russia has Legitimate Security Interests 🥺”

              No, I’ve always supported arming Ukraine fighting against imperialism. My criticism of the US and Europe has been that they were not sending enough and should send in troops to assist Ukraine in fighting back against Russia. My other criticism was that the US was not genuine with the process for a ceasefire, regardless of whether Russia is serious or not (it’s still a critical pressure point) and instead prioritized prolonging the war with Russia the same way the Afghanistan proxy war was used against the USSR, at the cost of Ukrainian lives. Russia may have legitimate security interests concerning NATO from a geopolitical standpoint, but the invasion is unjustifiable and only justifies the necessity of a security pact. I’d prefer a different security pact where all European countries participate Democratically, since the US only cares about NATO as a form of US Hegemony and not about the well-being and sovereignty of any European country.

              Isn’t that the exact position you criticized mainstream Dems for, just on Palestine?

              I criticized the Dems and the Republicans for funding, defending, and facilitating a genocide. As anyone with a conscience should. We should be doing everything possible to fight back against imperialism and genocide. That’s what international law is supposed to be about.

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                My other criticism was that the US was not genuine with the process for a ceasefire, and instead prioritized prolonging the war with Russia the same way the Afghanistan proxy war was used against the USSR, at the cost of Ukrainian lives.

                “was not genuine with process for a ceasefire”

                Would you like to elaborate on this?

                I criticized the Dems and the Republicans for funding, defending, and facilitating a genocide. As anyone with a conscience should. We should be doing everything possible to fight back against imperialism and genocide. That’s what international law is supposed to be about.

                So yes, it is the exact position that you criticized mainstream Dems on, just for Palestine.

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                  Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad: U.S. Must Stop Undermining Negotiations with Russia to End Ukraine War

                  So yes, it is the exact position that you criticized mainstream Dems on, just for Palestine.

                  You get that Israel and Russia are the ones committing genocide against Ukraine and Palestine, right? Yeah, I support Ukrainian and Palestinian resistance against fascist forces and their rights to sovereignty and self-determination.

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                    Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad: U.S. Must Stop Undermining Negotiations with Russia to End Ukraine War

                    Oh, Noam Chomsky said it, what’s his view on Ukr-

                    Jesus Christ.

                    You get that Israel and Russia are the ones committing genocide against Ukraine and Palestine, right? Yeah, I support Ukrainian and Palestinian resistance against fascist forces and their rights to sovereignty and self-determination.

                    Yet those who take a “Genocide is okay because it’s expensive or hurts my fee-fees to oppose 🥺” position gets a pass from you on one genocide, but infinite criticism and accelerationism for the other.

                    Curious.

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          Thinking it is bad is fine. The author of the Tweets even agrees with you in the screenshot you posted.

          But America is not helping Ukraine. It used Ukraine as a tool. Now that Ukraine is at its lowest point America starts extorting Ukraine.

          If this outcome (which many leftists correctly predicted) was known to Ukrainians three years ago, do you think Ukrainians would have been as enthusiastic to fight? So America can put a straw in their ground, and slurp up their minerals to fund Raytheon.

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            If this outcome (which many leftists correctly predicted) was known to Ukrainians three years ago,

            "We predicted that we were going to help the GOP elect a Russian puppeted fascist three years ago, because NEOLIBS are worse than fascists, and the lives of minorities and foreigners don’t matter ^.^ "

            Quite a prediction from ‘many leftists’.

            do you think Ukrainians would have been as enthusiastic to fight? So America can put a straw in their ground, and slurp up their minerals to fund Raytheon.

            Do I think Ukrainians would have been as enthusiastic about not being genocided if America wasn’t supporting them?

            Yes. Most people who aren’t ghouls think that.

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              The signalling about the minerals was done far before Trump took the reigns.

              Ukraine confirmed this week that they refused the early peace deal (which is better than the deal they will get now) because NATO promised to support them to the end.

              Neocons can blame this all on the convenient orange sheep, but the Biden administration made no effort to provide with Ukraine with decisive weapons to win the war. Only barely enough for the stalemate to keep going.