Ok just to clarify your first point: 60% of Americans have either a 401k or Roth IRA. The stock market is not the be all and end all economic factor but it does affect a large swath of Americans.
they ‘have one’, I have had friends who found out an employer created one for them with pitiful amounts of money in them, or they got paid partially in them. nobody I know genuinely believes they’re going to retire. very few people I know believe in a far-future. not far as in ‘i read the foundation novels and damn, that shit blew my mind because im the most basic bitch possible’ i mean ‘far future’ as in ‘I might die older than my grandparents’
that’s not to disregard what you’re saying completely, of course. it will fuck a lot of people up. im sure. but line-go-up hurts just as many, if not more, people.
Then your friends and people you know are morons. If your place of work provides a 401k or 403b, you can talk with an advisor for free to decide how you want to invest and how much. There is pitiful amounts of money in them because they didn’t add anything beyond the minimum and whatever their employer is matching. It’s also a good way to lower your tax burden at year end.
If your employer doesn’t have 401k or 403b, it’s even more important to have a Roth IRA. You can’t put as much into it each year and it’s post tax dollars, but it’s better than thinking you’ll ever get social security in 20-40 years.
401k is a scam that was used to help kill pensions. The only reason to use one if your job locks part of your pay behind matching some of your contributions.
Even the tax savings is a lie. It’s just a deferment and you pay the full income tax rate on it when you are eventually forced to withdrawal it. Even on the gains if you’re lucky enough to be up when you need it.
lol, thinking you’ll be alive in 20-40 years. should I throw salt over my shoulder in case there are fairys there? offer up sacrifices tot he gods? stay off ships named after greek goddesses of agriculture, or just stuff from greek myth in general?
Ok just to clarify your first point: 60% of Americans have either a 401k or Roth IRA. The stock market is not the be all and end all economic factor but it does affect a large swath of Americans.
Don’t forget 529s…
they ‘have one’, I have had friends who found out an employer created one for them with pitiful amounts of money in them, or they got paid partially in them. nobody I know genuinely believes they’re going to retire. very few people I know believe in a far-future. not far as in ‘i read the foundation novels and damn, that shit blew my mind because im the most basic bitch possible’ i mean ‘far future’ as in ‘I might die older than my grandparents’
that’s not to disregard what you’re saying completely, of course. it will fuck a lot of people up. im sure. but line-go-up hurts just as many, if not more, people.
Then your friends and people you know are morons. If your place of work provides a 401k or 403b, you can talk with an advisor for free to decide how you want to invest and how much. There is pitiful amounts of money in them because they didn’t add anything beyond the minimum and whatever their employer is matching. It’s also a good way to lower your tax burden at year end.
If your employer doesn’t have 401k or 403b, it’s even more important to have a Roth IRA. You can’t put as much into it each year and it’s post tax dollars, but it’s better than thinking you’ll ever get social security in 20-40 years.
401k is a scam that was used to help kill pensions. The only reason to use one if your job locks part of your pay behind matching some of your contributions.
Even the tax savings is a lie. It’s just a deferment and you pay the full income tax rate on it when you are eventually forced to withdrawal it. Even on the gains if you’re lucky enough to be up when you need it.
lol, thinking you’ll be alive in 20-40 years. should I throw salt over my shoulder in case there are fairys there? offer up sacrifices tot he gods? stay off ships named after greek goddesses of agriculture, or just stuff from greek myth in general?