Several countries have taken significant measures to try to encourage people to have more children and combat falling birth rates, but the U.S. is not one of them. Although the Department of Transportation was recently directed to give precedence to “communities with marriage and birth rates higher than the national average,” earlier this month.

Now Musk, who President Donald Trump tapped to head the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has vocalized support for tax incentives for mothers.

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    Good fucking Criminey I hate this bastard. Bro just wants generations of cheap wage slaves for him and his buddies to harass. The world will become a much nicer place once he dies on a Ketamine binge or something.

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    Cool. SO those of us who can’t or won’t breed have to subsidize the ones who do. Fuck that shit.

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      It’s not just the breeders. People are subsidized just for performing the religious ritual known as “marriage”. It’s a handout to the religious and heteronormative that oppresses everybody else. Always has been.

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      Children are the future generation. As much as musk is a shit hole, you’re also a selfish bastard for not wanting to allow children to grow up secure. Do you hate paying for school?

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        You have it backwards. Having children is the single most selfish thing anyone can do. Nobody asks the child if they wanted to be born it’s purely about what the parents want and what they are afraid of missing out on. If you want to have kids, then you can pay for them.

        As far as school, absolutely have no problem paying for education as society as a whole benefits from having well educated citizens.

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          Nobody asks the child if they wanted to be born it’s purely about what the parents want and what they are afraid of missing out on.

          Believe it or not, the majority of people don’t regret being born.

          Who’s gonna take care of you in you senior years if no one has kids? It’s not just for yourself. It’s for the continuation of society

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    Shit, i should type this into a pretty infographic somewhere, the number of times that i repeat it:

    The labor market is a market, it is regulated by Supply and Demand. Less supply (fewer workers) ==> higher prices (higher wages).

    That is good for the workers, and it increases the quality-of-life. That is a true socioeconomic strategy.

    Musk is a grifter who wants to breed cheap wage-slaves who would earn almost nothing and who would spend their lives in poverty. Expendable slaves. If the people have fewer children, that becomes less doable.

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      Less kids, less people to train to become skilled laborers. You don’t want to have an healthcare system at all when you get older? Make sure people have less kids and that those who do have a hard time sending them to school.

      The Best countries in the world help parents raise their kids and those who don’t have them gladly pay taxes to help.

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        What good does it do to have cheaper healthcare by having cheaper labor when that very same healthcare becomes unaffordable at the same time due to that very decrease in wages?

        Healthcare, as all things, is not naturally constrained to some maximum amount. You can have as much of it as you want, as long as you are ready to pay the price. Now, whether people can do just that, depends entirely on their average wages, right? So, having fewer people would increase the wages and therefore make healthcare more affordable.

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          I wasn’t talking about wages, not everything is about that. If there’s less people to train to fill the positions left vacant by people who are retiring then you end up being unable to fill said positions and you have labor shortages not just in shitty jobs that anyone can do, but in positions where your need highly qualified people as well. So you either need people to have enough kids to renew their population or you need migrants, otherwise you end up like Japan where they’re starting to panic and they finally realized that they would need to let migrants move in otherwise the whole country would crash because the birthrate has been so low for so long.

          Socio-economic equality and general happiness is highest in countries where there’s tons of incentives to have kids. Maybe it’s about keeping wages low in the US, it doesn’t have to be. Give people incentives by not making it as financially stressful to have them and that means they can afford to send their kids to university. Remove all incentives and that’s how you create a cheap labor population of unskilled workers.