• Lad@reddthat.com
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    The amount of people who died as a result of Brian Thompson’s leadership of united healthcare should be investigated instead

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    If the courts had intervened to stop Brian Thompson before his healthcare murder spree then maybe Luigi wouldn’t be being prosecuted right now. This trial isnt about luigi, its about covering up the chain of political failures that led us here.

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      Not really, Luigi already had tons of money.

      What it means is a legislator who might have actually had a positive impact on changing US Healthcare did NOT receive a 30k donation.

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        We can’t outspend the health insurance industry, especially not in the long run. Legislators will always side with those who can continually give large donations and pay full-time lobbyists. It is incredibly naive - bordering on delusional - to think we can take on even just one sector of the oligarchy by working within their captured system.

        Now is the time to apply pressure from the outside, organize and build our own mechanisms for affecting change. This will require solidarity, and for people to make collective and coordinated use of their agency with regards to their labor and spending.

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          The DNC literally passed laws against large campaign contributions decades ago, it was overturned by the SCOTUS citizens united decision years later, and has been a core DNC platform policy ever since to reverse citizens united.

          So yes, you can, but people aren’t, because people are idiots.

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            it was overturned by the SCOTUS citizens united decision years later

            So it was overturned decades ago, was never reinstated, and you think that’s an example of a win?

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              1. No, it was overturned in 2010, not decades ago. The law the decision overturned was the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, which was over 2 decades ago. The DNC had been trying to pass it since 1995.

              2. You people always complain about a party not changing things when we NEVER give them the power to do so.

              President Barack Obama and Senator John Kerry called for an amendment to overrule the decision but it went ignored. In 2011, Senator Bernie Sanders proposed the Saving American Democracy Amendment, which would reverse the court’s ruling, LINK HERE. Bernie Sanders and others have repeatedly introduced bills to reverse it ever since.

              The reason things are the way they are is because people vote Republican. Full Stop.

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                when we NEVER give them the power to do so

                “We” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I’m not voting Republican, you’re not voting Republican, and Luigi isn’t voting Republican.

                “do nothing about it until the midterms at which point we will suddenly convince 200 million people to vote Democrat” isn’t going to cut it.

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    How a 30k donation to a murderer counts as “uplifting news”? If anything it’s depressing

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      Yeah TBH I dislike Luigi a little bit more every time I see his face.

      People are actually worshiping this guy for some reason.

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          The animalistic “unga bunga club problems to death” part of their brain combined with anarchist and tankie propaganda campaigns promoting insurgency and chaos, as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.

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            as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.

            Then enlighten us and bring us out of our darkness.

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              I’m just going to stick to the most recent contributing events

              In 2009-2011 the US Senate had 58 DNC seats and 2 caucusing IND seats totaling filibuster-proof 60 votes needed to pass reforms for 72 workings days, and they attempted to pass a method of funding treatment for people who could not afford it, sometimes referred to as singlepayer or public option healthcare. Due to one of the caucusing IND votes not voting with the DNC, and every single Republican voting Nay, it did not pass.

              We gave them less seats in the next two elections. Every single year since 2015 we’ve given that party who wanted healthcare reform less than 50 senate seats.

              We’ve created the system that Brian Thompson profited off of, and when we killed him all we did was free up a spot for yet another out of tens of millions of terrible people to hop into and do exactly the same thing, as has always been done since health insurance was conceived and always will do because we refuse to change it. No matter how many more people die, no matter how much blood is on our hands.

              And because people don’t understand that they think the resistance is people like Luigi, who accomplish nothing, instead of the obvious solution right in front of us.

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                instead of the obvious solution right in front of us.

                Sorry, what is that obvious solution?

                If it’s voting I’ll remind you that in the last election one of the candidates directly stated they were going to be a dictator and less than a third of Americans voted against them. A third gleefully voted for the dictator, and a third didn’t bother to vote at all. What is this “obvious solution” that convinces 200 million people to vote the way you want them to?

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                  Instead of giving your money to Luigi, give it to the DNC and to Bernie Sanders. Or better yet, use that money yourself and volunteer to help the parties who support the real solution.

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      The donation doesn’t go to a CEO who has murdered hundreds, possibly thousands of people.

      It is going to someone who acted in defense of others. Or who might not be the person who even did that, which is why he deserves a fair trial.

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        Funny, if that hypothetical murderer really died wouldn’t that mean the “killings” would have stopped? Looks like nothing has changed.

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          So if someone else goes out and shoots the new CEO that would make arresting Luigi pointless? "Looks like nothing changed, another CEO got shot anyway.’

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      this is like saying donating to a guy who killed someone actively killing others is never uplifting news. Sure leave the school shooters alone

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        If that man was really responsible for those deaths then the killing would have stopped.

        The blood is on the hands of voters.

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          If that man was really responsible for those deaths then the killing would have stopped.

          If Luigi was really responsible for killing that guy in New York then arresting him would have caused the killings in New York to stop. The fact that people have been killed in New York since Luigi was arrested proves his arrest was pointless.